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[–] [email protected] 31 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

I almost never use them now.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Google been degrading as time has gone on. The other search engines (like all of them) are getting or surpassing google in certain subjects. AI has really made them look like fools in all of this. Googles AI sucks for results and (while I dont like it) others are using chatgpt for search results.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I would say it is just the opposite. Google used to be good before they tried to post-process results in this extreme way and AI is just an even more extreme way to do that. ChatGPT and all the other LLMs just increase the noise to signal ratio (noise coming first because there is so much more of it than signal these days).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I actually agree. Others use chatgpt for just about everything. I dont like it for many...many reasons.

Google was much better pre-2020.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Google was best in the 2000s, but things were different back then. They were still a young company trying to improve the world, SEO spam wasn't really a thing yet, there were far fewer websites, and most online discussions were archived and searchable (compared to today where there's platforms like Discord that aren't indexable in search engines at all).

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (5 children)

Consider Kagi far superior.

I ditched Google and Gmail.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago

I still include Google results in my Searx.

Definitely miss the good ol’ days where it was optimized to give the best results. Same goes for Netflix recommendations back in the the DVD mailer days…

[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago

I’m glad to contribute to that metric.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago

I ditched it around 2014 when I noticed it had effectively become the yellow pages. Its pretending to be one thing to the ‘user’ when its actually serving someone else. This is transparent of course but the balance/compromise or tradeoff of it still providing some utility to the user despite this is what may vary for different people. My threshold was low. That and the privacy violations. Unfortunately its a corporation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

Nice to see this choice is making an actual difference.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

interesting. looks like yandex and yahoo are the ones who took it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

Makes sense when you consider that Yandex is owned by a Russian oligarch, and Google has been fined more money than exists in Russia.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't read the article but use Qwant since Trump.

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