If you are looking for early internet check out gemini and the tildeverse. I have found really interesting people on there. It's nice to go to their capsules and read their stories or poems. With zero fear of them click baiting or bullshiting to create engagement. As there is zero ability to monetize that traffic.
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How do we consume less content and be more social/productive in a way that isn’t concerned with profit?
I'm not sure to understand what you mean?
We consume less by doing more. Say, we watch less YouTube about what we want to do and start doing more of what it is we want to do.
And we're less concerned by profit the moment we start doing stuff or going more toward people (spending time with them) without expecting much if anything in return beside enjoying their company and/or enjoying doing that stuff we are doing. Without expecting to be paid anything in return.
As far as being more productive, I'm not sure to understand what you mean either but, here again, doing more is a fine starting point.
It's consumerism that wants us to believe we need to endlessly consume (aka spend more money and time) to do stuff. We don't.
Well, yes, we do need to consume a little resources and we also need to feed/teach our head (ideas as well as art don't come out of nowhere), but we certainly don't need to constantly be stuffing ourselves with new content or tools—think obesity, but for the mind.
So, if we want to be able to do interesting stuff on our own. We start by learning to do (interesting) stuff. Aka, by doing crappy stuff. And that's true for every single things we may wish to do.
Or, should we consume more content that is conducive to being social? What type of content would that be?
We don't need to consume any content to be social. But here again maybe I don't understand the question, what would be a type of 'content conducive to being social'?
BTW, our species have existed (aka being social) for million of years, meanwhile Twitter/X and the others have existed since around 2005. So, we clearly don't need them to be ourselves but they absolutely need and want us to think otherwise so they can sell us more ads and make more money.
@[email protected] Well to be honest, there was a time on the internet that felt like people produced content which was not driven in any way by profit. This content was purely made to socialise with other people who spent a lot of time using the internet.
I think the internet has a lot of potential for being a place for growing ourselves individually and socially, instead of being somewhere toxic or profit driven. That's what I mean by productive: growing ourselves and growing community. Also growing these things without some form of profiting company looming over it.
That's how I view something like the fediverse, or how I view personal blogs like your own blog for example.
There is no way to accomplish this return of the hobbyist internet without deep systemic change (that won't ever happen if we're honest). We can only hope to carve out our little corners by leaving the lurker mindset and actively participating in the discussion of our hobbies:
Document your struggle running that one RPG system as a duet. Post how to solve the bug you were having with Linux. Review that one book you just finished. Make a list of your favorite resources on baking. Contribute to open source.
Problem is, we can't force people to do it, we can only do it ourselves and hope to make an impact, and that isn't really effective...
@[email protected] True though, it is not effective? We are talking right now in a non-profit area of the internet achieved through open source contributions and community participation :)
I'd say that's a pretty nice, effective thing that has been accomplished
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Or, should we consume more content that is conducive to being social? What type of content would that be?