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[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)

A lot of people, despite using a federated reddit alternative, will think of any reason to discourage the use of peertube I've noticed. It doesn't need to REPLACE youtube, that's basically impossible. You can use Peertube WITH YouTube. "Does it do anything different than youtube?" You can control what gets deleted and what stays up. "That's the only thing? It needs to do more." You can livrestream with it, and why would it need to do more than youtube? It gives you fucking CONTROL back in your hands! This is all about putting the people, back in control of the internet! The p2p aspect of peertube makes this the best competitor a community has to these giant companies with their world burning server farms. Why is this so hard for people to not be fascinated with having an option you can run with old PC hardware?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

hey I don't have time to watch this so I'll ask here since you're arguing in favor of it: how is storage handled? is it a concern? wouldn't any reasonable amount of storage have the risk of being almost immediately run out of space if the instance is even modestly popular?

[–] ICastFist 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It gives you fucking CONTROL back in your hands! This is all about putting the people, back in control of the internet!

So do I2P, HyphaNet (formerly FreeNet) and ZeroNet. They're all P2P networks and can run on old hardware, with the drawback being that you can't access normal internet sites while connected to them

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

that sounds less like "a drawback" and more like "fucking unusable"

[–] ICastFist 10 points 6 days ago

Sometimes, I think that peertube would work better as simply being a different section of a personal/private website. You know how some sites hosted their own videos back before youtube became "the only place to post videos"? Gametrailers, Machinima, ThatGuyWithTheGlasses, etc.

Federation helps with discovery, but not much beyond that, I think.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

just peertube recommendation algorithm browser extension. Working pretty well and ik discovering channels that make/reupload well produced content

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 130 points 1 week ago (11 children)

The main value of youtube for many of us is the enormous video collection, which is impractical for anyone else to duplicate. Need to fix an old washing machine (I did, recently)? Type in the make and model and there's an instructional vid. It's unfortunate that Google has exclusive control over such a resource, but here we are.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I think it’s running it at a loss too. But there’s no reason these platforms couldn’t be publicly owned.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was, but monetization has been so aggressively everywhere that I think they finally are in the black at least since 2018.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I had no idea. You’re right. It was a $15B business in 2019. https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/3/21121207/youtube-google-alphabet-earnings-revenue-first-time-reveal-q4-2019

Makes the ads seem even more obscene now that I know that.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That only mentions revenue, we still don't know their operating costs.

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The fact that you posted a link to this video from YouTube not peer tube says a lot.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 days ago

Peer tube is dead

[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

The point is outreach to the other platform. Sending engagement to this video on YouTube will boost it due to YouTube's algorithm. More exposure on YouTube = more potential new PeerTube users. Publishing this on PeerTube is preaching to the choir. As an alternative platform, you always need to maintain a presence on the main platform so you can encourage people looking to leave.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago

Publishing this on PeerTube is also a problem. I mentioned this in another post, but to expand, I really, really, want to like PeerTube. But:

  • Many running servers don't fully grasp the bandwidth requirements. The video I tried to watch in that post got "popular" (800 views) and it took 2 minutes to even get the progress bar to load. People will leave.
  • The federated nature is even more disjointed than Lemmy. It feels like a bunch of different sites still, which makes it feel like less content.

IMO PeerTube could be great, but it has a lot of shortcomings that aren't solved by adding features and fixing bugs.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (15 children)

I just can't get into using Peertube. I love the idea, but in my experience, it just doesn't work the way it should. Slow, low video quality, hard to get the federation working properly, and most importantly, a general lack of content creators I care to follow.

I stick with Odysee for this, and several other reasons.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I think we should discuss about what is holding PeerTube back. For starters a monetization system

[–] ICastFist 4 points 6 days ago

Server costs and disk limitations.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

It's a nice thought but even this guy did not continue his Peertube instance. More of a thought experiment.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think Peertube is more of a Vimeo alternative. YouTube is built around advertising.

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