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It's kind of ironic to me that Linux is all for free and open source, but still uses a proprietary platform, and a horrible one at that. Before the fediverse, I'd understand, but now, there is no excuse whatsoever.

I understand that we can't just get up and leave everything proprietary behind all at once, since we have iPhones and Android phones. We all use proprietary software of some form, but I am of the mindset of using the least amount of proprietary possible.

I will ALWAYS look for FOSS first. I also want to make it as hard as possible for any corporation to track me. They'll probably still be able to track me, but I'm not going without a fight.

I could say the same about the Linux kernel using GitHub, but I understand how massive of an undertaking it would be to move the whole kernel to another platform. I'm sure there are other factors, too. Anyway, I just wanted to start a discussion and hear people's thoughts.
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 hour ago

It would definitely be nicer to see the Linux community grow here.

But hey. I'm on Linux and I'm here with y'all. :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 56 minutes ago

Why should it leave? It's good to be omnipresent! You have another linux community here and in many other places.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Many of them are single-issue Linux users and don't concern themselves with FOSS philosophy

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Linux is ubiquitous, it's everywhere, even on Reddit, even under your bed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 minutes ago

If you have a Smart Bed^TM^, Linux might even be in your bed.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You're talking as if "The linux community" was one single bunch of people.

Reddit isn't Linux HQ and nor is Lemmy, nor is Facebook. #linux still active on IRC too, but not there either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

100%. I'm relatively new to Linux and to the western world as a whole. 😅

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

side note but you dont need to use proprietary android phones you can flash custom roms to most like GrapheneOS LiniageOS or CalyxOS or you can find a linux phone os like ubuntu touch

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Linux is mailing lists, if anything. It’s definitely not Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 hours ago

The mods there were crap back in the day. Keep them on reddit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

Subreddits can't move, they won't be subreddits then. There are other Linux forums outside Reddit -- like this one!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Even if they did... Reddit would just find new mods and reopen it. They wouldn't let it remain abandoned.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

This kind of answers my question. lol. I didn't think about it that way. I thought they can just bring it all here and that one gets ~~closer~~ closed or something. I forgot how reddit works.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

It's how they kept everything from dying when they killed third party apps. They openly banned and replaced mods that were keeping their subreddits locked. It was a shitshow, but unfortunately reddit still exists.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 hours ago

Some of us did leave, that's why you see us here

[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 hours ago

There's two reasons why r/linux is popular on Reddit:

  1. Reddit is popular
  2. r/linux is popular
[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago

Um, subreddits remain because they still have subscribers. That's all.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The kernel on GitHub is just a mirror - the primary source is on kernel.org

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 hours ago

Yeah.. would have taken OP 10 seconds to check that. Dumb.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
  • Not everyone that uses Linux is against proprietary software or only uses FOSS.
  • There are people that just heard of Linux, are just trying it out, or have an issue, and already use Reddit, or is what the search engine points them to go for help, or to ask questions.
  • Reddit has a lot more reach for the common people than any other platform at the moment, there are still people that prefer to ask on Reddit, than go to a specific forum or another platform to ask (If I remember right, it still happens with some apps like Jellyfin that moved out of Reddit, but people still ask there)

These are just a few of the reasons that come to my mind.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Also institutional inertia is difficult to overcome in general.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This is so weird to me. Maybe it's about who you are, or who you run with, but when I saw that Discord was about to go that way, I messaged my Pathfinder group and every single person there immediately hit me back with, "so where to next?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That's what, five people?

It's a lot different when it's thousands and thousands

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

That's why I said it might have something to do with who you're around.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Reddit Linux are just a bunch of gaming chuds. and I say that as a gamer.

They'll take time to understand the landscape and there's nothing wrong with that, yes reddit is dogshit but you won't convince anyone by just telling them. They just have to look around for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

It is the censoring, from the top down. That is like a brick wall on reddit that will hit anyone in no time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Look at corporate members at https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/members

There is a difference between Linux, the kernel, as a tool and free software the ideology. A lot of contributors to Linux are there for the money. They contribute resources, including money but also usually staff, without caring for abstract concepts like "freedom", or they might even actively (arguably) work against it when they are strategically establishing walled gardens and exclusive stores.

So... I'm not saying that's OK but I believe by confusing the ideology with the tool used for profit by gigantic corporations we are being unrealistic.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm having trouble following, you're suggesting that the Linux subreddit continues to exist because of some corporate conspiracy to keep users on commercial media platforms?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I'm not sure where you get the "corporate conspiracy" part. Is anybody in 2025 still not understanding that platforms do everything they can for their users to consume any content available there constantly in order to sell more advertising because that's one of the most profitable business model? Isn't that public knowledge? If it's not public knowledge are you implying it is "secret" despite those very corporations precisely publicly (at least during shareholders meetings) claiming that their strategy is simultaneously user base growth AND user engagement? If so wouldn't that be more ignorance that conspiracy?

Anyway, that's not even my point, rather I was trying to say that it seems OP is interested in Linux for the ethical aspect whereas the corporations listed there are, by definition and by their legal mandate of being for-profit companies, participating in order to improve their bottom line.

Please let me know if I misunderstood your point and/or if I'm still unclear.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Linux isnt only for Foss enjoyers. Plus its good to have the linux community on reddit to help people bring attention to linux. If they move it here it will be even harder to join the community.

Think of /r/linux as a gateway to the world of Foss

[–] [email protected] 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Think of it as an advertisement or a road sign. You want your message to reach as many people as possible.

Normies don’t usually find their way to Linux on their own. Hell, most don’t even know a third and fourth option (BSD) exists. By being on as many platforms as possible, more will find their way.

For what it’s worth, GitHub is NOT the place where kernel development takes place, that is just a mirror. Have a look here to see where development happens.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Third option? Solus? Minix? What is the third option!!???! Why don't I know about the mysterious third option?!!!?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Linux is the third option. As far as many normies are concerned the second option is macOS

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Damn, that just goes to show how indoctrinated I am. Didn't even occur to me that there's two mainstream OSs outside of Linux out there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Reddit is unified, Lemmy has a small layer of complexity on top and "sh.itjust.works" is a weird name, maybe the Lemmy system drives to such complicated names. Its not a big deal but I add that to the other causes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

Linux people are afraid of a little added layer of complexity? Please

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Additionally, Lemmy would be a hostile place if you happened to be a conservative-leaning Linux user. I know quite a few, but they aren't on Reddit either.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago

They're on youtube complaining how people should be understanding to everyone's opinion when their opinions are hate, racism, and violence against minorities.

They never speak up when the little guy is being oppressed though, just when they feel their right wing audience feels attacked.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

It could be worse. At least they didn't move to discord or facebook.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

If no one discussed the value of software freedom on proprietary platforms then (hopefully) we'd be preaching to the choir here.

Linux has proprietary binary blobs in it. If any part of a software is proprietary then even if most of it is free then why do people not call "Linux" proprietary? Libre Linux removes those blobs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

It helps keep the more caustic linuxers away from lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Correct we only want the sour linuxers here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

My experience has been the opposite. People are nicer here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

You are right, it's not very often I see fights here.

Regarding migration to Lemmy, I think it will happen originally and in a few years the majority of questions will be asked here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago

The call is coming from inside the house

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

Because Lemmy is quite silent relatively. It’s a hard sell outside of those who enjoy selfhosting.

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