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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/42834907

“The reason we’re here is because the government of the United States wants you to leave the United States,” Judge Ubaid ul-Haq, presiding from a courtroom on Varick Street, told a group of about a dozen children on a recent morning on Webex.

The parties included a 7-year-old boy, wearing a shirt emblazoned with a pizza cartoon, who spun a toy windmill while the judge spoke. There was an 8-year-old girl and her 4-year-old sister, in a tie-dye shirt, who squeezed a pink plushy toy and stuffed it into her sleeve. None of the children were accompanied by parents or attorneys, only shelter workers who helped them log on to the hearing.

Immigrant advocates and lawyers say an increasing number of migrant children are making immigration court appearances without the assistance of attorneys, which they say will lead to more children getting deported.

“That child will be ordered deported from this country — that could all happen without that child ever speaking with an attorney and given the opportunity to obtain representation,” Shah said. “The cruelty is really apparent to all of us out here in the field.”

holy shit

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The dystopia isn't even boring anymore.

Actual orphan crushing machine.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I feel crazy when I read these kinds of articles over the past few months, because I'll have a flash back to a few years ago where the exact same shit went down. And here they go again, this time cranked to 11. The show Orange is The New Black dedicated a whole subplot in their final season back in 2019 on how ICE was operating and what they were pulling. Immigration raids disguised as police raids, the indefinite detention of nonviolent migrants, inhumane conditions in holding, insufficient medical care/attention, etc.

One scene later in the season depicts the article above exactly, a group of children being put before a judge that they couldn't understand for many reasons; lack of representation, the language barrier, or because the kid is all of 2 years old.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Human beings in positions of power need to die for the acts that will be committed under this fascist regime. Every person contributing to this happening has a name and an address.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Judge: I will help you since you have no lawyer.

4 year old girl: No habla Engles

following translated:

Judge: Where were you born?

girl: I don't remember. I was too young.

Judge: If you show me a US birth certificate or SS ID card, I can help you not be deported.

girl: uhhh... what? what is words?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

SS ID card

This invokes some unpleasant aSSociations.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

This isn't oniony. It's just sad.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ, we're fucking monsters.

[–] [email protected] 113 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe if these KIDS didn't WANT to be in Court they SHOULDNT have Committed CRIMES!

-Republicans who Voted for the 34 FELONIES Candidate!

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why are they spending time in a courtroom when they could be in the mines?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh just fuck off with that DEI shit. I am so sick of being put down because I’m a white man in America. Just one more job i wouldn't do being taken away from me by illegals.

I volunteered at a soup kitchen once and the place was filled with able body white libs who are too lazy to work. Send them to the mines first.

I mean, I assume that’s who was there taking the handouts. I couldn’t actually show up that day. But I did volunteer and least.

Point is, there are plenty of Americans that should be forced to work in the mines first.

*just as an aside, I’m trying my hand at being maga. Wanted to practice some first, not sure this comment is angry or stupid enough. Any pointers appreciated.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

It's good but you forgot to capitalise the buzzwords: "If any LIBERALS really want HANDOUTS, maybe they can try their hands out in the MINES!" Then throw in a laughing emoji after saying something totally dangerous: "Honestly if you have democrat parents you should have to pay more for school 😂"

[–] [email protected] 152 points 2 days ago

Yeah, this is the part where the Nazis were rounding up the gypsies. That's where we are right now.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Jesus Christ, this is awful

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (6 children)

This has been going on for many years.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If that's true, let's be glad it's getting attention now.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was getting attention in 2018 too. John Oliver even did an episode about it. People just don’t care as long as it isn’t them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I keep caring harder and harder but that just makes me more anxious.

Also, am Canadian so it’s not like I can do anything about it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

While allowing any unrepresented kids to be deported is bad, it’s now twice as bad as before.

Kraft said that before the contract was terminated, she saw 30% to 40% of children in a given docket without lawyers. Now, she said, the number has increased to 50% to 60%.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

It's still awful, jesus

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Judge Ubaid ul-Haq should be ashamed for even presiding over that farce.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They can preside over it, but they should just have dismissed the case with prejudice for the government not providing a lawyer.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (22 children)

Unfortunately the law does not obligate the govt to provide a lawyer.

Edit: In immigration court. This is not a criminal court.

Edit edit: The number of people unable to comprehend the difference is giving me insight into just how bad the education system is in the states.

Edit edit edit: Apparently me explaining the facts of the matter makes me a bad guy 🤦

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are correct, and ultimately the issue is that the laws shouldn't be different for immigration courts or immigration agents, because wrongful detention or deportation can be worse than wrongful imprisonment.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

No argument there, this is a farce of a kangaroo court

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Why are we not burning the white house down or dismantling any ICE facilities? 😬

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Because if you do you will probably be killed or sent to El Salvador. Unless most people are doing it, nobody wants to take that risk.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ballsy move kids, but will be a big blow to the lawyering industry if they win.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm just going to point out that Trump has declared that the official language of the United States is English, so I'm sure he's going to put in another executive order saying there shouldn't be any translators made available.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

they did this in his first term. this is part of why he was elected. racists vote.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

It is from the old FBI/NSA Playbook. Put them in "court" but then make sure they have no representation as that would get in the way of the ruling.

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