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Discord co-founder and CEO Jason Citron is stepping down (www.theverge.com)

submitted 22 hours ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Discord is just another social media site that has a whole lot of people fooled into thinking it's not creating profiles on them for advertising. Gonna get real obvious real soon though.

I guess thats OK for community dev teams and stuff - like it works well, users can come and accesa the faq or support and leave. But it can leave a walled garden of data in there if they want to move elsewhere later though.

Larger issue is the people that share their whole lives there as a quasi-Facebook. That's all getting hoovered up and sold to the highest bidder - alongside data like exactly what activity you do on your PC (processes running when and where for how long etc - Discord monitors a lot)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 48 minutes ago

The names escaping me but there’s a site you can use that turns your discord into a publicly accessible website / archive.

Check out mautrix-discord too if you’re a server admin, you can puppet everything there and switch seamlessly.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 hours ago

they're gonna make it a million times worse putting the activision blizzard guy in charge.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

fyi discord has already been enshitifying for at least 5 years now

[–] [email protected] 57 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Discord ruined what was left of online forums and so it’s users now deserve the full force of enshittification. It was so easy to join, how come it’s this hard to leave?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

Mutual hostage taking, you can't leave because everyone is there, and they can't leave because you're there.

Only collective action can be organized to break this social trap. The easiest way is to require the garden's walls pulled down.

But I'd be fine putting down the executive

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 hours ago

It's hard to leave because it's easy to join, and because it has the critical mass of users. Simple as that. It takes a lot to get people to abandon their chats, their friends, their groups, and the years of built-up message history, for an app that likely has fewer users and fewer features.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yea I saw the writing on the wall years ago. Why do I want a fucking client to talk to mass people. That is a shit format for more than like 6 people in a room.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

It's basically an old school chat room at that point.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Where the fuck are we gonna go?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

IRC is basically all the chat portions of discord.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 58 minutes ago* (last edited 58 minutes ago) (1 children)

If you think everyone using the Discord/Slack/Mattermost/Rocketchat/... generation of chat with inline image display and all those features, voice and video chat and screen sharing is ever going to switch to IRC at this point you are simply delusional.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 minutes ago

Oh, I don't expect it to happen, I'm just pointing out that it still exists and takes care of some of that functionality. I don't think I've ever seen gifs, videos, or screen sharing implemented in IRC.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

Better though because you don't need an account, and can gain a lot of anonymity via an eggdrop or vpshell etc.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Forums. Lemmy. Group Chats.

What does discord do that these dont bar create a barrier for use?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 33 minutes ago

Unlike Forums discord exists.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Voice chat and screen sharing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 minute ago

Matrix?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

I've got that in my group chats in Telegram but since we should all be moving to FOSS and decentralization, have you considered setting up Jitsi? It integrates with Matrix too. That already pretty much gets you most discord functionality that people care about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Like a phone call? Group voice chats? I would have thought tis was built into consoles and services, seems odd that Twitch doesnt have this feature.

I have only ever seen it used as a terrible forum clone where discussion sucks and security is poor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Like a phone call? Group voice chats?

Yep, or even a watch party (group voice chat with someone sharing his screen). You can't do that on forums or lemmy.

Not sure about twitch, I only use that to watch streams, never to do streams.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 hours ago

I dunno. There’s probably a discord group that discussed it but you are not in it so I guess you won’t ever know.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

Element. If you are missing something, talk to all those motivated people doing Discord bots or whatever, they can contribute to Element/Matrix. And it's actually open source, they keep their contributions, contrary to all the work they have done for Discord for free.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

its gonna enshittify

[–] Dumhuvud 36 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Let's be real, the enshitification started quite some time ago. Though I do expect it to get much worse.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 hours ago (6 children)

Where am I moving my friends group? Revolt is nice but not quite ready for primetime / getting a rewrite, and I've always been iffy about matrix. Is a signal group chat literally where we're heading to!?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

What's wrong with matrix/element? We started running our own server for our household group chats and it has been solid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

SMS/RCS

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Why iffy about matrix? You could always use mumble or teamspeak still

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

As someone who runs a Mumble server (and has for over a decade) – it's really not a replacement for the user experience that is Discord.

People want a unified UI, the ability to create communities with some amount of customization, embedded/live content, plus voice and video so they can chill and play games together. Mumble is just voice, and while it's a very good implementation of that, it's not even in the same user space as Discord.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Matrix does have all of that, though? Except for voice.

I use matrix/element for socializing and Mumble for voice chat while gaming.

To respond to each comment:

Element is a unified UI, available on PC/Web/Mobile.
Starting and managing a community involves hitting the + button, creating a community, creating rooms in that community, then setting permissions and ACLs - pretty similar to discord, though with more control as you own the server.
Embedded content is possible through the embed button.
Video and voice work, but aren't great for gaming (see below).

Element Call (aka the new MatrixRTC spec) is great for video calls, but leaves a lot to be desired for chatting while gaming.