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[–] [email protected] 62 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (8 children)

Imagine, government of the people, by the people, and for the people - that's crazy SoCiAlIsM talk!

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Back to the good old days when products were of higher quality. What a concept.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago

And to a world where repairing is both possible and feasible.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

I've heard this from service techs who have worked on my refrigerator and dishwasher - major appliances in America last a third as long as they did 10 or 15 years ago.

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 6 days ago (8 children)

A welcome mandate, especially for electronics. However people are already throwing away so much perfectly fine furniture that I donβ€˜t think it will help much in that regard. A lot of people want something new, not something that just works.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Where are you living? Here people give away (emmaus for example) or sell it online, for cheap equals you don't even need to throw it away, someone comes and picks it up for you.

Those appliances are so simple too, making them durable is very low cost. Good move EU.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah they buy new because the advertisements give you idea that new is cool, brainwashing one into consuming. We should ban ads

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

This is absolutely true and sad, though I get a lot of free electronics to dismantle by rummaging through trash. People have no appreciation of the value of "used" items that either work perfectly fine or have a minor issue that prevents them from working but is easily fixable, e.g. a broken cable (I have many working devices that were thrown away because the cable is severed, which I could easily fix). I think only proper education in this regard will improve things long term.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You can buy LED lightbulbs that all have their own apps. It's getting ridiculous

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh look! So much progress is being made since USA embargoed itself!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I know this is a joke, but it is important to point out for others that such policies get years to be designed, discussed and published in the EU.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 days ago (14 children)

Now, this is the trading standards that we all ask for; not "be more racist" or repeal the protection on lgbt. Christ, American fascism is the weirdest i have seen. Fascism in the past didn't even try to dictate the laws and regulations of other countries.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"We will stop our tariffs if you accept our diseased, chlorinated chicken"

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 days ago

We really need to stop with this β€œbuild to break” mentality for products. Our wastes, as humanity, would significantly lower and reduce wastes…. But hey, we also have to think of the investor's, right?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Samsung: god damnit, now we have to use the $0.30 washer instead of the $0.29 washer and itll last at least 10 years longer!

That's 10s of millions in extra sales lost!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The spirit is willing, but the machine is spongy and bruised.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Bullshit. My aunt has a washing machine with all knobs and switches that's probably 30+ years old and it still works fine.

They need to stop putting all these digital components into washing machines or make the boards standardized so they can be easily swapped out. These aren't laptops that you toss after 3-5 years. Appliances should last 10-20 years.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Laptops should last longer than 3-5 years too. It should go without saying, but this is the internet.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is a good first step. The next would be to lower the ridiculous amount of electronics in them and remove wifi and telemetry functionality. A dish washer should never have to connect to a server to do its job.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I would like it to come with an open source firmware that I could connect to my locally hosted servers.

I would enjoy mapping out load weights, water and electricity consumption, and cross reference that with a lot of other stuff. Plus some remote controls, and a better interface to choosing washing programs and scheduling start/end...

I just don't want any of that data to leave my house, ever.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Electronics in general should last longer, just like back in the day.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (4 children)

When buying future appliances, I have to be sure to get them from the EU. Standards in the US are going to be below the floor.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

I'm liking the sound of "Made in EU = high quality"

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago

Hell yeah. This is the good shit.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 days ago (12 children)

The three biggest things that kill a tyre are;

  • shitty roads
  • aggressive driving
  • heavy vehicles (like EVs and oversized SUVs)

That said, cheaper tyres are typically made of cheaper compounds that age poorly.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (5 children)

That last point sticks with me.

I always used to get the cheapest, shittest tyres just because cost, but since I became a driving instructor a few years back I got into the mentality of thinking "I need decent tyres because I don't want my learners to lose control of the car"

Normally I'd buy tyres once every 6-8 months after squeezing out every morsel of life from them, but my current Bridgestone tyres have been on for nearly a year now - doing driving instructor mileage on top of my usual - and they're not showing any signs of needing replacing yet.

The fact is I'm actually saving money doing it this way, because whilst the tyres are more expensive, I'm replacing them much less often.

I'm going to try out Pirelli next because it sounds like they've started lining the inside of some of their tyres with that puncture repair stuff and padding them out with foam to significantly reduce road noise.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Obligatory Pratchett:

The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.

Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.

But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's a good thing they think about this. With that said, the tires can wait. Let's start with the low hanging fruit. It's a crime that critical components in home appliances break so easily and are so hard to fix.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago (11 children)

Or impossible to buy spares for, or when you can get the spare part it's often so expensive with shipping that it's almost worth buying a new appliance on offer with the warranty that comes with it.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Do like Dubai (for this instance) and demand better LED bulbs too.

Big Clive - Dubai Lamp

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