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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is there a filter to block all these EU OS posts, please?

As I see it, it's hardly an open source project but just some malicious start up attempting to get funded by EU then flee off.

Show me your production ready OS, not your POC boot screens.

And perhaps properly name your product. Naming it after 'EU' is self-righteous. What comes next? Earth OS?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Strange project indeed. I had a small discussion recently https://gitlab.com/eu-os/eu-os.gitlab.io/-/issues/13#note_2414881293

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Malicious startups can't survive in the catalogue of the EU comission. In it there are certainly also commercial solutions, but mostly FOSS, OSS and FLOSS. The reason is to recover the sovereign from the US hegemony of the big companies in the web. Respect EU OS, there are in the focus several distros:

Arcolinux of Belgium

Slax of the Czech Republic

Exherbo of Denmark

Daphile of Finland

Manjaro, Lubuntu, Mageia France

Manjaro, OpenSUSE, Haiku, Knopix of Germany

AntiX and MXlinux of Greece

Linux mint, Zorin, Solus Ireland

Endeavour and NixOS of the Netherlands

Alpine Linux Norway

SparkyLinux of Poland

Void of Spain

CRUX of Sweden

Kali Linux Switzerland

FerenOS, UK

https://european-alternatives.eu/alternatives-to

https://european-alternatives.eu/categories

But if you trust more the US soft and services, use these and the malicious soft from there, without the rights and privacy of the EU but those from Trump and Musk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Don't forget about Nix and Guix.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

The best news from this is that the EU is willing to go these ways. Incredible for consumers in the long run and to combat monopolies.

Yes, they could sponsor something else, but what we also really want are choices and competition.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Great initiative!

Now move it to Codeberg ;-)

PS. What's it based on?

[–] madame_gaymes 26 points 1 week ago

If you read the linked page:

So far, EU OS is a Proof-of-Concept for the deployment of a Fedora-based Linux operating system with a KDE Plasma desktop environment and bootable container technology in a typical public sector organisation.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

So far, EU OS is a Proof-of-Concept for the deployment of a Fedora-based Linux operating system with a KDE Plasma desktop environment and bootable container technology in a typical public sector organisation. Other organisations with similar requirements or less strict requirements may also learn from this Proof-of-Concept.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Seems Fedora & KDE

[–] ChairmanMeow 2 points 1 week ago

From the FAQ, they want to eventually move to https://code.europa.eu/

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why not use OpenSuse. We use it where I work in about 25 developer laptops, plus 1 Ubuntu (choice of the person themselves) and it has been rock stable. We should have about 50 by end of this year, out of 950 devices in total. Let’s go for something made in EU and of good quality.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I agree. Most Linux distributions have their base within the EU. Just dumb to bring a new Fedora based dist to the table. Debian is also very connected to the EU and France, even though the SPI is registered within the US.

One could push for The Linux Foundation to to move their HQ to the EU. If that changes anything. I guess it depends on if Linus resigns or wants to move back to Finland.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

AFAIK depends OpenSUSE on the company SUSE, which - though based in Germany - has partners and hence ties in the US.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

SUSE is owned by the Swedish venture capital firm EQT. For better or worse. All software has "ties" to the US. Remember there are lots of good people in the US as well. Everything isn't MAGA or tech feudalism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

It has less to do with people than with jurisdiction. The US administration can demand to do this or that on US soil and the maintainer, owner, programmer has little chance to do otherwise if he/she does not want to end in the prison. Hence, my opinion to choose distro with as least as possible influence by the US.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Any OS specifically designed for the EU Will have so many back doors that security would not be a word that applied to it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

As I wrote in the thread about this last month on [email protected]:

I wonder how much work is entailed in transforming Fedora in to a distro that meets some definition of the word “Sovereign” 🤔

Personally I wouldn’t want to make a project like this be dependent on the whims of a US defense contractor like RedHat/IBM, especially after what happened with CentOS.

and, re: "what do you mean 'redhat is a defense contractor'?!": here are some links.

screenshot of RedHat PDF saying: Compress the kill cycle with Red Hat Device Edge.Deploy on any aircraft, pod,sensor, or C2 node Ability to comply withcybersecurity requirementsExecutive summaryThe U.S. Air Force and its mission partners are fielding new mission capabilities on airframes andcommand-and-control (C2) nodes to compress the kill chain. The find, fix, track, target, engage,assess (F2T2EA) process requires ubiquitous access to data at the strategic, operational and tacticallevels. Red Hat® Device Edge embeds captured, analyzed, and federated data sets in a manner thatpositions the warfighter to use artificial intelligence and machine learning (AI/ML) to increase theaccuracy of airborne targeting and mission-guidance systems. Challenges of edge computing onaircraft and other tactical C2 edge nodes include delivering consistent capabilities on diversehardware (new and old, connected and disconnected), meeting airworthiness security requirements,and efficiently sustaining software at scale. The Air Force can meet these requirements withRed Hat Device Edge, the edge-optimized software platform that is hardware agnostic.Opportunity: Use edge technology to defeat the adversaryThe Air Force and its partners are developing innovative capabilities on airborne and ground systemsto gain battlespace advantage, including: Coalescing and stratifying data to feed AI/ML at the edge to increase the accuracy oftargeting and mission-guidance systems and compresses the mean time to detect (MTTD),make sense and act across all warfighter domains. Delivering near real-time data from sensor pods directly to airmen, accelerating thesensor-to-shooter cycle. Supporting Agile Combat Employment (ACE) in the highly contested21st-century battlespace. Sharing near real-time sensor fusion data with joint and multinational forces to increaseawareness, survivability, and lethality.“With Red Hat DeviceEdge Lockheed Martinis leading the infusionof cutting-edgecommercial technologyinto military capabilitiesthat deliver advancedsolutions to ourcustomers. Unlockingthese AI technologiescan help nationalsecurity decisionmakers stay ahead ofadversaries, enablinga safer and moresecure world.”Justin TaylorVice President, F-22 technology,Lockheed Martin 11 Red Hat press release. “Lockheed Martin, Red Hat Collaborate to Advance Artificial Intelligence for Military Missions,”25 Oct. 2022.

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