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[–] [email protected] 75 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I didn't know that this is the perfect way to enjoy memes. Posted to Twitter, screenshotted, discussed further in Tumblr, printed out, faxed, scanned, and then posted to Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Bottomfeeder unite 🐟🐟🐟

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

Just use a fax to email service FFS

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (26 children)

I can understand that people don't like riots.

What really shits me is when people are opposed to completely non-violent disruptive protests. Street marches, die-ins, gluing yourself to statues, throwing non-destructive liquids onto monuments, etc. If you put your mild inconvenience or sense of propriety ahead of a cause, that's clearly not a cause you believe in, so stop blaming the protestors for your lack of support.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Why does this look like it's been photocopied more times than my geography teachers lesson plan?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Looks like someone's been praxising.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Yes. A quite recent example from Germany:

Letzte Generation (Last Generation) a group of climate activists which glued themselves onto streets, usually carefully planned, organized and communicated with emergency services (such that ambulances can pass). They just got all of the hate and achieved not really much.

Then there were some farmers who were unhappy about governmental advances to reduce or remove the "agricultural diesel" subsidies. They've blocked highway entrace ramps with burning car tyres and dung, went really hardcore compared to the Letzte Generation, and finally got what they wanted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Maybe the farmers just had an "easier" goal. Just remove the taxes again but the last generation wanted to stop climate change which isn't just done with one small step..

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The issue with peaceful protests is that they usually don't go far enough.

In your example, the farmers went two steps further and it made the difference.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Having the support of major news media and the lobby arm of Big Agriculture (who partially incited the riots) surely helped more than their methods.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Absolutely, so people that don't have that should inconvenience people more.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Some dorks in this thread are the perfect example of who potential protesters need to ignore.

I brought up "truckers blocking highways and important intersections" to my very good (but desperately clueless) friend. Violence free, requires few bodies, historically effective.

He said "but what about the people they inconvenience?"

I'm like dude. Inconvenience to power is. the. point.

I love him but he's a fool, guy thinks protests are people smiling and holding clever signs.

Sad thing is he's representative of a lot of people.

They'll be happy when things are better but idgaf about asking their advice. They don't read history, the closest theyll get to a protest is the news coverage, and they'll never be satisfied with less than some impossible dream of a "immaculate ~~conception~~ protestation"

So like, fuck em

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

Not to sound elitist, but most people are ill-informed from what I observed. They mean well, but they form their views and opinions from sources that aren't great. It doesn't help either that we are inundated by pleasures from all sorts of media, which distracts us from paying attention to what matters more.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's only a rebellion if you lose.

[–] xav 4 points 5 days ago

"Rebellion" used to be a positive term (think Star Wars but in real life).

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It’s not civil disobedience when the other side isn’t being civil.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

People are dying from treatable or preventable illness, suffering from homelessness, and suffering from food insecurity. These are all forms of violence.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Until now, whenever I point out that any and all societies are fundamentals based on the capacity of violence, people got uncomfortable and/or denied it.

Sweeties, people got murdered so that you could have a democracy* because that gives the power to the people** as they have the most capacity of violence, so they need to be appeased.

Sidenote: the eu, the UN and so on are also existing to appease enough of us to reduce violence as it is a shared interest.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I don't mind riots, so long as it's targeted in some way, and not just the random breaking down of privately owned small businesses (which hurts no-one at the top).

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

Riots are grenades. You don't get to precisely target what gets broken and what doesn't.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

"Why Civil Resistance Works" is a good book about why civil disobedience is the most effective means of resisting a regime. It's not an easy read, but it's still great info.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

That's a feature not a contradiction

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

The ends justify the means. Not a moral statement on 'doing whatever it takes' - it is meaningless to win when the victors are no different from the victims.

Rather, an observation on the nature of what it is to be justified or vilified.

The ones at the end decide. When it is happening, it is never justified. It is never tolerated. It is vilified. It is criminal. The means are always painted as extremes.

Something new can only ever be justified when you reach the end. Until then, it - literally - is radical.

To the present, you're just a person stirring up trouble. Could be good, could be bad, but either way, it's trouble.

You can only ever be a hero to history.

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