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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
Posting Guidelines
All posts should follow this basic structure:
- Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
- What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
- Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
- Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
- Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.
Rules
- Post only about bans or other sanctions that you have received from a mod or admin.
- Don’t use private communications to prove your point. We can’t verify them and they can be faked easily.
- Don’t deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
- Don’t harass mods or brigade comms. Don’t word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
- Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
- You can post about power trippin’ in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.
- If you are the accused PTB, while you are welcome to respond, please do so within the relevant post.
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
- PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
- YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
- BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
- CLM - Clueless mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.
Relevant comms
Death threats are a heat-of-the-moment infraction, people don't usually mean it.
In contrast, misogyny reveals a deeply flawed character of the commenter, that makes them incompatible with participation in the community.
This is the the death threat, btw:
bro I'm literally putting a curse on you rn. you're going to die soon
Damn, I wonder why misogyny got a longer ban than that. /s
That was just one of them. They had one or two other ones. One was hoping I got hit by a bus and the other was suffocating I think? I might have that one mixed up for something else.
So she did, I'll admit I missed those ones. Still, you have this still up on you account, undeleted, so I'd say YDI:
And I would feel fairly confident that the commenter was a woman because attacking someones personality (that they don’t know at all) is typically done by women. If they don’t like something you said they tend to tell you that you have a crap personality or a tiny dick.
You literally posted a screenshot with its pronouns, why do you have to misgender her?
They as in that person? It's a gender neutral term. Are you taking the piss?
It's gender neutral when you don't know the pronouns of a person. Her pronouns are literally in its bloody display name my friend.
Chill out, it can also be used when gender is irrelevant.
Singular they has become the pronoun of choice to replace he and she in cases where the gender of the antecedent – the word the pronoun refers to – is unknown, irrelevant, or nonbinary, or where gender needs to be concealed. It’s the word we use for sentences like Everyone loves his mother.
Transphobic people regularly use they/them for binary trans people to avoid using their actual pronouns. If you know someone’s pronouns be respectful and use them.
Explain to me how that user's pronouns are irrelevant when she's being directly referenced by OP. I'll wait.
Are you of the opinion that the pronouns are relevant to the length of their (plural their mind you, OP and imogen_underscore) bans or that the discussion here will somehow change depending on their gender?
That's moving the goalposts by quite a lot.
I would say it is moving the goalposts to the topic at hand, but let's agree to disagree.
I think a person's pronouns are always relevant when talking about the person at hand, when they are known. It's really as simple as that. Anything less, and you are misgendering that person.
And in general I would consider "they" to be "not gendering that person" without adding any negative or positive values to it.
I understand that it isn't all that simple when it comes to lgbtq and those who are actively misgendering someone as a refusal to accept their gender. Give those fuckers hell, they deserve it, but if it's possible that someone is using it as I consider it to be used then give them the benefit of the doubt. It'll make the world seem a bit brighter if nothing else.
We're not all hateful bastards, some of us just don't read usernames and are lucky enough to not have to think about pronouns and gender. Thanks for making me think a bit more about it this evening.
This BS is one of the reasons why the left are getting their asses handed to them like fucking everywhere. 'They' as a neutral pronoun is used as a fallback when nobody cares to point out the precise gender. You can't win for losing. Refer to someone's gender during normal conversation? Sexist. Speaking in a way that doesn't call out someone's gender because it is unimportant for the issues being discussed? Believe it or not: sexist? Or what not sexist enough? What is even the problem?
You've completely derailed the conversation and soured everyone to your cause(s). GG.
Like the other comment said. Chill.
Ydi
It was the same mod that did both bans?
It is. (i'm a mod of the community, but i only removed comments in that thread) tbh i'm not sure what blaze's thought process was here so i'll ask him and see what he thinks. Personally i would've just banned them all for a week.
You'll have to forgive my lack of Lemmy knowledge idk how to see which mod issues the bans.
If it was not the same mod then it really does not fit here.
I am unaware of any way to tell which mod specifically issued the ban so I apologize
There are some apps that show it, and I believe tesseract web view does as well.
~~If it was two different mods there is no comparing them especially if it was two different communities, which likely have different rules.~~
Edit: never mind, the images finally loaded and it is the same community. I thought it was two different communities.
Yeah same community
Have you ever been to Reddit? Surely have. And most probably you're here because of Reddit's moderators are completely crazy. Well, moderators here are completely the same. They are just fewer and more lazy.
Just make another account if that community is really important for you.
Nah I don't give a shit about the community I am/was just flabbergasted that they rate a misogynistic comment as worse than death threats.
That's just insane.
If I was a woman I could see how online misogyny would affect me in a real way, being unable to participate in and feel welcome in communities day to day.
An anonymous flame war death threat does not actually materially affect someone, unless there's some reason to think it's serious, the odds of which are negligible.
No one's saying actual murder is less bad than misogyny, for fucks sake.
I mean my "misogynistic comment" was basically just me saying that women are typically the ones I see making that type of specific verbal attack.
No different than someone saying they think men are bad at listening in certain contexts which I can pretty much guarantee nobody would report or get banned for in any way for saying.
Yes there are some ridiculous mod actions here, I just said that portraying them as being more sympathetic to murder than misogyny is specious.
I wouldn't even say that's what I was trying to portray. More just how ridiculous the ban was in context of the whole situation. My comment wasn't really misogynistic and their response seems out of scale with the punishment they gave to someone who told me they hoped I died in several creative ways.