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Like... I don't know what's the point. Eat heathy, and live a long life? Jesus christ, who has the energy for that?

Just eat whatever. Drink Sodas. Die. Who cares. There's probably gonna be a global recession, or global great depression. Everyone around me is toxic. People in my country is toxic. The government is toxic. Why even live that long? Maybe my next incarnation will be better.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

The problem is that humans tend to be adaptable and resilient. Treating yourself like crap probably won't kill you anytime soon. But a heart attack will make you miserable for the rest of your life.

I don't mean miserable as in you wish you'd never met her let alone married her. I mean miserable as in you can't sit up anymore because of the vertigo, and you can't lay down anymore because it hurts to cough.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Yup. Almost succeeded in having a stroke. It was caught. Better luck next time I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

All unhealthy stuff doesn't taste good anymore though. The fun of getting drunk doesn't compensate for how hangovers are worse and longer. Cigarettes taste like ass and don't give me the kick I used to get. The fuck you mean, "just eat whatever", the slop us Americans make ain't worth shoving into my mouth.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’ve absolutely have been stress eating. And I’m supposed to be having a friendly competition with my best friend to lose 20 pounds. She is stress eating too. Neither is winning right now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

you aren't losing, either.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Maybe just try to stay reasonably healthy to annoy them. Eating crap leads to obesity and other health issues which make you weak, unhappy, dependent, isolated and (if you live in the US) also poor. Don't let them win by making it easier for them to have power over you.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This isn't really a question, but I'll respond with my experience.

As a kid I had a mother that was incredibly health conscious. She always fed me "alternative" foods with strong flavors. It instilled a hatred for health foods in me, but it also changed my taste buds to have a particular distaste for sweet foods.

I am now in my 30s. I still eat healthy. I don't binge eat. I stay away from overly salty foods. And guess what. My health is still a mess. I get what feels like food poisoning all the time. A lot of foods still make me sick.

At some point you need to realize that eating healthy is not always a solution. Healthy foods do not work for everybody, whether it be a severe dislike of the taste or allergies to the additives that are frequently required to make health food taste good. I have begun thinking it is better to have too many nutrients than not enough. It is better to drink a lot of juice loaded with sugar than it is to be dehydrated.

I would rather live a happy life for 40 years than an unhappy one for 80, especially given the current direction of politics and the fact I am now 50% microplastics.

In the end, you need to find out what works best for you and what makes you the happiest version of yourself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (10 children)

You sure you're not just eating poorly and thinking you're eating healthy? There's a significant amount of misinformation in nutrition, on par with climate denialism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are also plenty of reasons “healthy” foods might absolutely fuck with your health, even if you’re not eating a ridiculous amount of them. For example whole wheat is a perfectly fine food to have in your diet, unless you have celiac disease and don’t realize it yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, allergies and rare conditions are a thing sometimes. In your own example that doesn't change the principle that whole grains are still the cornerstone of even this hypothetical person's diet - they just have to avoid gluten.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I can think of some things. The first is that there's a real chance that, if you are living an unhealthy lifestyle, it is likely actively fueling the depressed-sounding state of mind you seem to be in. I know when things seem hopeless it's hard to want to try, but it's the successes in small decisions like that which can help us claw our way out of these pits.

The next is that relying on the "next incarnation" is wishful thinking that, I think there is a stronger case to be made that it's more likely to be disappointing than it is an improvement. We don't know how many realities there are, we don't know how many of them we would ever see (or if we could ever see others) after death, or whether or not there is anything of "us" after death to experience anything in the future. But if we're seeing the one world we do know is there, getting worse, then whatever else there is or what we can experience, we now know the total amount of them has gotten worse by this much. Put into more simple terms, we lay in the bed we make. What if you reincarnate/rebirth into a factory-farmed cow for example? There's only one sure-fire way to reduce the odds of that happening - making the choices that lead to fewer factory farmed cows coming into existence.

Death is not an escape. There is no escape. The only way out is through.

Then the other thing that has fueled some of my own decisions, is that we promote what we do, to others. If I were to smoke cigarettes for example, I would be making it more likely that those in my life, the people I care about, would be more likely to also start smoking. From that point of view, literally every choice we make has consequences that probably shouldn't be taken lightly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

I care about my health but I also can’t wrap my head around being old

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I admire you for saying what you think. Most of people don't do that and they hide their thoughts fearing "dislikes" . That's why I'm against the upvote down vote system, minority is important too.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is no incarnation, this is the only life you have and it's up to you to make is as good as you can. Externalizing and blaming others for everything does not get you far.

There is no afterlife, no nirvana, no reincarnation, you just sense to exist. Until then make an impression on the universe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is no afterlife, no nirvana, no reincarnation

Even better. Stop stuffering.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Without suffering, there is no enjoyment. What do you enjoy? What are you grateful for? "Nothing" is a cynical and avoidant answer here, because every person has legitimate answers to these two questions. What are yours?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Without suffering, there is no enjoyment.

And yet even with suffering, there is also no enjoyment. Welcome to treatment resistant persistent depressive disorder!

Can't wait for Medicaid to get axed so I can go live in a concentration camp.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I do but I can't afford it. So I ignore it. I have a lot of shit I would get looked at if I could. Like some sort of pinched nerve feeling in my abdomen that makes my right boi holler. Or my teeth. Or my back. I'd honestly go for regular checkups if I could.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I didn't even mention that aspect in my top-level comment because the check engine light is burned out. The systems and access to them were a mess before, and now I'm expecting medicaid cut headlines (and/or dropped people). Which personally, the idea of interrupted treatment makes me more wary than no treatment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

But if you get fat you have to buy new clothes

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

More likely to die happy and enjoy living if you take care of yourself though

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I do as well as I can in an enjoyable way to keep myself somewhat stable. Like I've been riding my bike on the trail lately* and I enjoy cooking** for myself. I'll sometimes drink soda, but honestly I think if the sugar were halved I would probably enjoy it more (or just... some dessert is probably less sugar). Even though I guess subsidies make sugar cheaper than water.

I'll sweep the floor because I don't want to walk on dirt. Though yeah, I'm probably stuck here more than others.

* mostly to go outside (with not many good destinations I can viably reach), though I can make it to a local grocery store for a few things

** mostly sautéed vegetables, squash/celery/mushrooms/carrots/onions etc, spinach on sandwiches and recently have tried cooking chard

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You sound like you would enjoy the book, The Limits to Growth and its progress checking updates. The models suggest we're in for a very bad time by 2040. The runup seems to have already begun. The neat thing is that the book doesn't even include climate related catastrophe. They're just bonus add on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

It was written by multiple MIT professors sponsored by an organization called The Club of Rome. I remember that there were two authors named Meadows. Subsequent updates were by additional people. It has a lot of mathematical models with different parameter assumptions. The 30 year update was by Green, I think.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Well with the climate wars coming I want to be in peak shape to trample everyone else down and take my place as a warlord over as much territory as possible. Can't do that if you're out of shape

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Lame. Turn all that negative energy into something useful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You could live until 100 if you take care. You can still eat what you want in moderation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Living til 100 really isn't the motivator some people seem to think it is. I don't want 50 more years of this. I'll take quality of life over quantity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The good time vs long time idea is a false dichotomy. Unhealthy lifestyles fuel depression and other cognitive disorders. The long life is the happiest life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

What I personally enjoying is more mental so I’ll be okay unless I lose my mind

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