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The US government is investigating China’s breakthrough smartphone (archive.vn)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But he said the launch also raises questions around how Huawei managed to launch the phone when it has spent the past four years under US restrictions banning access to 5G technology. “While access to 5G for the chipset is one thing, I’m not sure how the company managed to source all the other components that need to go into a 5G smartphone, such as power amps, switches and filters,” he said.

Love that America's 21st century cold war is fully predicated on the assumption that China does not have the ability to develop its own productive capacity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

outsource the construction of absolutely everything to China

confused as to how China makes Things

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huawei is literally one of the cocreators of 5G

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah, don't really understand the shock here

the whole policy really seems... stupid. Like, we've kinda hit a plateau with microchips and CPUs. Any smaller and you start getting quantum interference and the board becomes useless. So why is the stated strategy to prevent innovation on this front? What difference does it make? Either US leaders are fighting last century's battle and assuming this is perfectly analogous to the Soviet computer industry, or it's a distraction for something more covert.

But... I don't really know what the latter could be. I'm half convinced we're just not capable of that kind of thing anymore, that all the old heads have retired and all our clandestine institutions are staffed by their starry-eyed children. People with the right connections and none of the skills.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I think it's mostly a version of the former. The US has a hammer (sanctions to restrict tech and capital intensive development) and they only know how to wing it at nails. The failure of US sanctions to truly hurt Russia is an example of this - it really does seem like they thought they'd do more, even though the "bring EU closer to the US" strat worked for now.

I'm sure there are wonks that have thought of contingencies around this anti-China strategy so that there are multiple ways to "win", but I think the core of it is to try to slow down China's growth and domination of tech, as the US (and EU vassals) rely heavily on their (self-) advantaged position in tech monopolies. The US and EU absolutely cannot compete so the US is trying to delay and to carve out more spaces to neocolonize (EU better be ready for that lol). EU countries are playing with the idea of being less vassalized but so far haven't done anything concrete.

One "win" will probably be that this slots into a general new cold war anti-China narrative. They're always slapping that "China bad" button so that the US populace will be amenable to having their consent manufactured for more. Notice that the US media narratives are, "I guess the sanctions didn't work against those threatening sneaky [slur]s, so how do we escalate even more?" and not, "why are there even sanctions and who wants them?" Getting ready to escalate and escalate, hoping that China will eventually react so strongly that there will be a watershdd moment.

The Amerikkkan political class only knows how to ramp up tensions until they have the excuses they need to do mass murder for profit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't tell if this is the usual coordinated anti-China prop or a big ad buy from Huawei, because the net effect is I really want a Huawei phone now sicko-wistful

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The phone is 1000+ USD agony-shivering

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that's sort of the floor for flagship phones. That's why I'm ten generations behind 😎

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't get paying more than $150 for a phone. I just need to check emails, read hexbear, and listen to podcasts. Am I the only one terrified about having this fragile and very stealable $2000 thing in my pocket???

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In 2019 less than 10% of Americans were buying $1000 phones so you're probably with the majority still.

Also yeah I drop my phone a lot so I use a really sturdy phone case that's protected it 100% of the time. Obviously ruins the look though so why even bother with a fancy looking phone...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If it's true that they're still a bit behind the cutting edge in lithography technology, then China is going to blow past the rest of the world in advanced semiconductors in the next 2-3 years. Wringing that kind of performance out of less precise lithography techniques means their chips will be better than western chips once they achieve parity in lithography technology, which will probably happen in the next 2-3 years. Before the end of the decade China is going to be decisively more technologically advanced than the US. It's fucking over.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

we should start counting down to when the sabotage comes; china only has a handful of places that can make these chips and a well placed explosive; management suddenly jumping out of windows; or people demanding fair labor practices/pay should ground the whole thing a stop long enough to guarantee that china will never catch up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There's a conspiracy angle on the Malaysian Air 370 that it was the US stealing or eliminating a team of Chinese engineers involved in chip design. Flew it to Diego Garcia and then dumped the plane.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't realize that the chip embargo was just targeting 5G. What an absurd move. It's a completely unimportant technology, why is that where you draw the line in the sand? And it's not some incredibly advanced thing that's hard to replicate, it's just a communications standard embedded on a chip. The only thing this embargo does is force China to arbitrarily build this specific supply chain entirely in their own country. Which China's rivals shouldn't even want! Having supply chains spread across dozens of countries makes it harder for all of those countries to go to war

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm so sick of hearing about 5G my god why is it in everyone's mind so much? I've been able to stream a youtube video at 720 over 4g for a while now what do you need to do faster than that on a phone?? I'm a big tech nerd but this literally doesn't affect me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It may not affect you, but it does affect me. 5G helps greatly with congestion. We have a holiday home in a skiing resort in Switzerland and during peak season, 4G is practically unusable, even 720p cat videos barely load. Last year several 5G antennas were installed around the village and I now get speeds >300Mbit, allowing me to even comfortably work remotely from there. 5G has had a very positive impact on my life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

5G helps greatly with congestion

Finally, my smartphone can replace my nasal spray as well!