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The conservatives of incoming chancellor Friedrich Merz and their likely center-left coalition partner, the Social Democratic Party (SPD), have agreed to demand the bloc withhold funds and suspend voting rights from countries that violate key principles such as the rule of law, according to a draft coalition agreement seen by POLITICO.

While Hungary wasn’t mentioned by name, the draft agreement is clearly referring to the EU’s worst offender, which for years has been accused of taking a wrecking ball to democratic norms, curtailing the freedom of the press and restricting the independence of judges.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Well it was only a matter of time. Keep voting in Poo-tin's interests and the shit will inevitably hit the Orfán.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

EU really needs a way to kick out members. Hungary doesn't care about EU.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Nah – withdrawing voting rights and funding suffices. Perhaps remove the right for citizens to freely move within the EU as well. You need sticks and carrots, not only sticks.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We need to care about Hungary and the Hungarian people. Kick out Orban!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If Hungary is kicked out, maybe the Hungarian people will finally turn on Orban.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Hungarian people in general have already turned on Orbán, mostly because the infinite money the EU was funding his propaganda machine with was disturbed.

Orbán has broken down Hungarian society with the help of Merkel in exchange for the complete destruction of Hungarian worker's protections to help the German car industry. The Hungarian people are victims here, the perpetrator is Orbán, but the weapon was all EU funded due to German diplomacy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Nah, orban would kust cramp down on power more if the EU laws and regulations were removed.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They care about the EU money quite a lot, not so much the ideology.

I stand by the training that if a county would fall below the standards that are required to enter the EU, procedures should start to expell them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

That's all well and good, but the Geman car manufacturing industry liked the whole setup before Orbán became a problem. You are not fighting against Hungarians here, you are fighting European big business, especially German big business.

If you are looking for the receipts for how this went so wrong, look no further than Angela Merkel.

Volkswagen would have to get all their engines through customs if Hungary got kicked out, and they have a bigger say in EU policy than you, or the whole of the NL for that matter. It's not good that this is like this, but we are all victims here.

Except at least Budapest has been protesting this for 15 years, while the wider EU populace has been content for their money to get stolen to oppress Hungary. Most of Hungary is more on board with European values than the Netherlands by the way.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I don't think any eastern European country does.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Best they can do right now is make their presence in the EU hell with whatever measures they have. Either they'll start acting right or they'll fucking leave. Hungary's residents don't seem to want to get rid of Orban or his crew. They have a chance in 2026 with Peter Magyar, but my expectations are very low.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

wait is he really named "Peter Hungarian"?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

yeah, it's the hungarian word for the hungarian language. it could be one of those situations where the actual meaning is "the language" or something, hungarian is a very unique language.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, it means both like in English. It is not an uncommon surname either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

like in english? i don't think i follow

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It means both as in both Hungarian the nationality and Hungarian the language?

Like in English: "The English speak English".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

ooooooh, right, i was thinking that it was re: DeepL translating it as "english".

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago

Something needs to be done, indeed.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I see what you did there

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I'd be fine with a fighter jet strafing him thanks

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

May a thousand steel fists rain down upon him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Took me a while not to read that as

The time has come to punish Orbán (and) Germany's next(, some) government says

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What realistially can EU and Germany do?

EU is already withholding funding, although they have to pay Hungary every time they have to pass something in EU.

Do they even have the vote to suspend voting rights when they have Slovak PM going crazy as well?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

If Orbán gets "sanctioned" maybe Slovakia will start to think twice about biting the hand that feeds it. And if they also continue to push the Russian agenda then we'll have an established protocol to deal with them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

They are not withholding all funding.