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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Why do people need to win this artist bad ai good argument? Maybe they just don't like people.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Randomly made this when clearing a pen's nib on a post-it

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

what an esteemed little guy :)

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

do it again but stare at grass for a few hours

Edit: Also i drew "your" guy pregnant

Gave it a fat ass too

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

evenly lit, ink smudged weird, camera somehow perfectly on top without occluding any light

may snakes bite your balls and all your milk turn sour

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Dude this is a masterpiece, it’s in no way half assed.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it's finest AI slop..

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Here's my shitty drawing of something AI can't draw

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago

That's actually pretty good depiction of a chunk of roast beef with a revolving rotor attached to it and flying upwards.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Time to move the goal posts again:

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My career as an artist is in shambles

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

My doodle this week. I trace from cute pictures I see on the internet.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I rushed to dig through my old high school art class work and found this:

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Be real, this is clearly an AI generated image.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The line work on this is very expressive.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago

Absolutely! I want to see art and human expression and not corporate generated productivity outputs.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Can we just cut the back and forth and accept AI as another tool and let soulless AI content die off naturally. No one listens to music that's all autotune after we decided that it was shit. The same will be said for AI.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Some people need something to rage and virtue signal against. Those who work in private STEM sectors or took machine learning classes years before the LLM craze already understand the tool is here and are willing to learn to work with it if applicable in their job or daily life.

Those who don't understand anything about the science of machine learning and are angry at the how megacorporations got away with unconsentually scraping their copyright infringed data off the internet for the first iterations of training data still get to let off some steam by calling it 'hyped autocomplete just as bad as NFTs that will never do what a person can'.

If I were an artsy type whos first exposure to ML was having my work stolen followed by the thief bragging to my face about how copy protection laws dont matter to the powerful and now they can basically copy my honed style 1 to 1 with a computer to sell as an product, I would be unreasonably pissed too and not interested this whole 'AI'thing. Megacorps made chatGPT and stable diffusion using my work therefore AI bad. I get it.

That said, I'm not an artsy type or an idealist. I'm a practical engineer who builds systems to process the flows of information and energy with the tools available at my dispersal. Theres more to machine learning than proprietary models made with stolen information to be sold to th masses. Instead models are just the next new way to process large datasets full of complicated information. Its just that now were taking cues from natures biological information processing systems. Whether such processes prove more certain and effective to the old analog and digital ways have yet to be seen. Perhaps using these new tools will open up entirely different ways of treating information for all of society. Perhaps it will be just another niche thing for researchers to write papers about. Time will tell.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

Everyone is welcome to do just that in [email protected] :)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

"I judge art on the basis of how it was made, not on its merit in terms of the emotions and thoughts it elicits from me"

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is it not possible that how something is made also elicits emotions and thoughts?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Sure but I don't think it should be the line between garbage and good. It can add value and push the overall piece, but that isn't what the person is implying.

There are probably some really fine paper napkin art out there, and having it on a paper napkin most likely adds to it overall, but it's different then saying all paper napkin pieces have more value then all generated images.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Some of us value authenticity. Plagiarism-powered hallucination engines have exactly none of that. The disturbed individual (or individuals) that painted the bathroom of my primary school with feces created something more artful than any AI slop could ever be.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (21 children)

Imagine arguing that flavor is what is important in a dish and not the type of knife used to cut the vegetables, and have someone respond he'd rather drink piss.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

"I find the ethics involved in the creation of something to be irrelevant."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's called capitalism. There are no ethics in how anything is ever created. If you're mad about people being exploited, then fight capitalism.

But poeple just sound corny hating on every work of generated art. It's very possible to make nice pictures and videos with a computer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No ethical consumption under capitalism doesn't apply to "luxury" goods like art and entertainment. That's like arguing that it's okay for people to still use Reddit and Twitter after all the stuff from the past few years because "no ethical consumption under capitalism." This isn't Amazon or Wal-Mart killing off local businesses so that they're the only place you can find stuff that we're talking about. This is not reading Harry Potter or buying merch because JK Rowling is a TERF. It's super easy to avoid companies like that, I do it all the time. I stopped using streaming services (and TV before that), and there's easily a dozen video game companies that I refuse to buy from due to the way they treat their employees and customers. And protect sexual assault. Let's not forget that Ubisoft and Blizzard both are guilty of that.

This isn't about people making art with digital tools. I do that all the time, and AI gen can easily be a super cool tool for that. Except for the whole stolen labor part of it and people using it to do a corporation while using excuses like "no ethical consumption" to absolve themselves of stealing the skills and work of artists.

Creating art is considered a useless skill looked upon with contempt by society, yet the product is highly coveted, and AI is being used by people who want the reward but don't want to put in the effort and don't want to pay those who can put in the effort fair compensation for their work. It's merely another step in the long road of devaluing artists.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How not to define art

(You can take this as agreeing or disagreeing with you, or both)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

It is true it is an exercise in futility to try to give it a strict definition, as well as being very subjective. Nice vid, it's always fun to find quality youtubers I don't know.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (27 children)

Depends on the artist. Shitty at drawing but got skills on the comp? Ill take the art you used AI for.

Plenty of AI slop out there sure, but there is also plenty of drawn/painted/sculpted/whatever slop out there as well.

Hating on new tools is some dumb shit.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Hating on new tools is some dumb shit.

This has never been what the issue is. The issue isn't the tool, but how it's made and how it's used.

AI gen programs are almost to a fault created using art without permission with the express purpose of then using said programs to put the workers whose skills were stolen out of a job. Without artists, gen AI would have nothing to train on. They are basically the definition of wage theft in their current form.

You might as well be arguing that Temu brand fast fashion is just as good as any other kind of clothing.

And the other end that gets hate is the people who consider themselves to be better than artists because the prompt they put into an LLM created an image that they consider to be better than what artists make. They're jealous of people creating something and want the reward without putting in the effort so they can hold it over others.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

To me, it's more that I get a glimpse of the human behind the art, even or especially if they're shitty at drawing. That's why I also like memes which are thrown together haphazardly. If it's pixel-perfect imagery, I don't see much from that at all.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Not referring to the Adobe model that compensates artists in the training set, but besides them there has been great debate on the ethics of ingesting & regurgitating. (“but small humans do it” etc)

Which is to say of course it could be the best art in the world and it wouldn’t be beautiful in those eyes.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Probably an unpopular take, but I think it's got its uses. My artistic skills is not too great, and I don't want to spend the time to get better or pay someone to draw a banner or icon for a Lemmy community or D&D character, for example, because it's not that important to me. I'm cool if an AI can get kinda close to what I want and it's nothing I consider to be load-bearing. To be clear, I mostly use it as something to fill up the blank spaces.

Also, I've seen AI art really nail some things. It's probably one in every 500 images I've seen, but it actually does knock it out of the park once in a while. It can also be a fucking hilarious toy if you're bored. I gave Dall-e a picture of my wife and her sisters and asked it to give me an upscaled version of the picture and it basically drew them as the canker sisters. Good times.

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