For context: I habe a PC with an 8gb SSD and I somehow need to get an app on there that only has a flatpak release
Flatpak is love, flatpak is life.
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Build it from source them.
If it's only available as a flatpak I don't need it. π€·
Its your call
However, Flatpak is growing in popularity so chances are that's going to be more and more the norm. Same thing with Wayland.
Are there people who hate Wayland as well?
There are people who hate anything new.
Call it flatpak, call it wayland, call it systemd. There's always haters.
Systemd isn't new... (Tell that to the systemd haters who think it is still "controversial")
Point taken though
Yes there are. Actually quite a lot. They hate it because it isn't a perfect solution in every single case that X.Org provided but ignore the long history of vulnerabilities, bugs, and cursed workarounds present in X.Org. it is getting harder for them to hate though as most of the pain points (eg. color management and global shortcuts) are part of the standard now.
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Another missed occasion to have taken a screenshot. There's gnome-screenshot, scrot, your DE's integrated tool and so many others to choose from, you can do it!
That sort of shit makes me hate the modern internet. (Also screenshots are cleaner and therefore compress better since you seem to care (rightfully) about storage space.)
Yeah but if youre using a lemmy app on your phone its significantly faster to just use your phone camera rather than having to share/transfer the file over somehow, or sign into lemmy on your pc. Im not saying you're wrong, but i get why someone wouldn't care for a quick throwaway post. Also storage then isnt an issue on the PC at all because the image is only on the phone.
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btrfs compression and dedupe. Saves a lot of space
Storage is cheap, I don't care at all as long as I can easily install it without having to go online to search for missing dependencies in the correct version.
My only problem with Flatpak was when I tried to install an IDE and made it use Podman or Docker and the container thingy caused problems.
"x is cheap" is not the greatest take imo. it's cheap until you just so happen to not be able to afford it. what now? better give me an income for the price in storage. not talking about flatpak specifically.
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Skelly is rapidly approaching your location.
tl;dr: some applications (like Bottles) are designed to run only in sandboxed environments. Flatpak is a robust way to ensure that an application has the correct dependencies and conditions for proper functionality.
Ok dude, you should have looked at the minimum requirements for a linux install before buying that thin client. I checked debian and fedora and both had minimun requirements exceeding 8gb for graphical environments. Read the manual, stop bashing a tool you arent using right. Flatpak works great for almost every use case, especially if you learn how to tweak the sandbox.
and 8gb ssd? at that size it's surely a removable 2242 ngff drive, it's like 10$ for a 64gb one. you're quite literally throttling your systems read/write speed, cause ssds want at least 20% free to manipulate files.
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I only use flatpack when I need the most up to date version of a software for whatever reason.
Or alternatively... crzyshrtct was not found on your host, but is required, daddy. Please install it to be able to use the software.
But itβs a delta.
you probably have thrice that in your yay/paru or emerge cache
i know what you are.
TONS OF SAME STUFF
every time:
downloads a different version of KDE from 2014
what kind of app only bundles a flatpak? Surely there's manual install instructions?
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Lots of people seem to like it. I also use it for like 2 or 3 desktop apps, but it's alao littering my filesystem with gigabytes of runtimes. And I believe I can salely remove Skype now...
Who likes having their hard drive space wasted?
No one does, but people like it when you install an application and it just works. It makes it easier to install applications regardless of which distro youβre on as well.
Technically it's empty space that's being wasted, if you fill it up it's being useful!
The benefits easily outweighs the cost of some extra space use. We're not talking about a lot here, after all, with dedupping, shared runtimes and what have you.
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Everyone brazenly saying Flatpak is the best install package management system has stockholm syndrome.
It is the best one for people that don't know a lot about linux. Many people are at a loss when they read basic errors like fatal error: <header>.h: No such file or directory or ld: cannot find -l<library>. Flatpak solves a lot of that by specifically including all of it in the installation.
So ye, for non-power users, flatpak is the best package manager. It also has only one downside, which is the increased storage requirement for apps as they have to bring all of their dependencies themselves, which is okay these days as storage isn't that expensive anymore.
And everything is better than fucking snap if we're honest for a second.
I really don't understand the flatpak hate. Stuff doesn't magically work across distros, and app devs don't usually want to debug every major one. If you're running linux on a thinkpad from 2004, sure, it wouldn't be the best but most people can probably afford the overhead.
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