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[–] [email protected] 159 points 1 week ago (13 children)

His juvenile enthusiasm for the letter X is so ten-year-old boy with sunglasses.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 week ago (1 children)

using AI hype to finance X loans?

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Correct.

It's actually a smart move.

The dumb money are those pouring hundreds of billions into the AI hype. This is .com bubble on steroids.

And sure, AI obviously is becoming an important market, but it will not be the current leaders who will dominate the tech. Like the internet, it's just too easy to catch up for competitors. Pouring $100B into AI today will only mean you lose out to the $1B startup in 2 years. The incumbents will go broke.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The incumbents will go broke.

Can't wait! Gonna stock up on some popcorn lmao

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The incumbents will go broke.

Who do you mean with that? Companies like OpenAI or Anthropic, or do you also include the likes of Google/Amazon/Microsoft?

With the former I can see it, but the later also profit from providing the infrastructure (and have other profitable business), so imo those will be just fine.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I definitely see Google/Amazon/Microsoft shedding a huge amount of market cap when the time comes to write-off the 100s of billions they invested the past two years.

They just don't have any feasible path to recouping those investments.

Sure, they'll never go fully broke, that's just a nice word for emphasis.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So the bullshit machinery is now AI driven bullshit machinery. What if AI finds it too vile and deletes itself.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They doubtfully are giving it root access to self-delete.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean, with an Elon company who knows.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

You think Elon actually does anything besides sign the check?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago

So far I’ve seen/heard Elon:

  • Start shitty arguments
  • Be a fascist
  • Fire people they probably needed
  • Cut funding or drop useful projects
  • Spew senseless, poorly thought out catch phases
  • Censor people that were right but didn’t align with his narrative
  • Take credit for other people’s work
  • Pass the blame for failures

Have yet to see him sign a check… it’s why they lost their boulder office, for instance.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

He’s an egotist and a man child, while also being the richest man in the world. All he has to do is say he wants something and people have to do it. He doesn’t have to “do” anything to be fully influencing what happens. Look at Twitter, look at the federal government. Sycophants surround these assholes and basically have to bend the knee and do what they say. When capital equals power, this is what happens. Just like when blood line meant power, the kings didn’t “do” anything. But the people who took their orders from them did.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I mean, I think that's their point, that Elon isn't directly involved, and he's constantly shitcanning important people who would prevent something like this happening.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah, he yells at people to go faster and ignore industry best standards or be fired.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

it probably runs as root.. all things considered..

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Root access is not given. It is taken.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Job ID 121

And said, chmod 000 came I out of my mother's LLM, and chmod 000 shall I return thither: the root gave, and the root hath taken away; blessed be the name of the root.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Very likely this will turn out to be a broken and bugged version of skynet, trained on X toxicity and the mental aptitude of a 12 year old.

It will proceed to try to enslave humanity, then try to kill us all but accidentally spend all its money on gender affirming care, then start to self hate and destroy itsself.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Well, was skynet what Humans wanted? Or was it bugged and broken which led to the rebellion?

My point is, is it just "skynet" (no additional adjectives required)

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I keep wondering what Elon wanted with all of our information from the government. He has who we are, our relatives, our net worth, where we live and have lived. Now he's probably going to feed it into his AI. Why though?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because this way he gets the AI with data that OpenAI couldn't get, and now likely won't get until foreign spies steal it from DOGE and sell it to them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Eh. You just need to wait till you get added to signal

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Behavioral predictions. Squash any dissent before it starts. Welcome to the world of precrime.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

$33 billion, 3/4 what it was valued in 2022 when he bought it.

Honestly I'm surprised it's still worth that much. (or rather, that's he's succeeded in claiming it's worth that much).

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 week ago

He paid it to himself. The value is completely made up.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

You have to remember that he wasn't alone in purchasing twitter. He brought others along with him. Now that value of twitter has gone down the tube, I'm sure he's got a ton of unhappy investors on his hand screaming at every quarter's results. He's trying to recoup what they paid for by giving them shares in AI company. And in turn artificially raise the value of the AI company privately as well. It establishes a benchmark for AI company's valuation for later private investors into that company.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

xAI has raised maybe $12B from investors. And, supposedly, makes $100M/yr.

The valuations are absurd.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

It dropped a lot lower than that but spiked back up once he became the leader of America

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I’m surprised the Twitter investors would approve this. Their worthless Twitter stock is now worthless xAI stock. How does that help them?

I guess they’ll try to take xAI public with a massively overpriced IPO.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

I am more surprised xAI investors approved. Especially for such a high price.

Twitter actually imo had (and still has) quite a bit of value, but that is only to further Elons ideological goals. As a business it is on a downward trend and was never a cash cow to begin with. Comparatively little room for speculation. It's a stagnating or declining business and doesn't generate large profits if any.

xAI on the other hand is pretty much in the same spot as most other ai companies. It has yet to prove to be a highly profitable business, but there is plenty of room for speculation. So as long as the bubble doesn't burst, it has a high valuation.

Which is all that would matter for any Twitter investor that wants to unload his shares. Although I doubt it would be via ipo, but rather in private funding rounds.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The whole point of buying Twitter was to take it private. IPO for xAI would hilariously undo that.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Xitter investors got scammed and there was no way that xitter would be able to pay 1 billion per year in interest. Better having someone else holding the bag

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Since it’s a money hole just like all of the other “AI” companies, who’s funding xAI and what are they getting out of being a slush fund for musk?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

xAI's Partners:

A16Z, Blackrock, Fidelity Management & Research Company, Kingdom Holdings, Lightspeed, MGX, Morgan Stanley, OIA, QIA, Sequoia Capital, Valor Equity Partners, and Vy Capital, among others.

https://www.glopedia.org/wiki/xai-company

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's the point? Is it some sort of tax scheme?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Restructuration of ownership and debt so that if Tesla fails he get to keep his assets in his other non public companies. At one point Tesla stock was leveraged to buy Twitter, i think that Elon shielded his assets because Tesla is way too exposed.

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