One is a functional, modern society. The other is the united states.
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It you think USA public opinion isn't extremely heavily guided and controlled, then I can only compare you to a fish that doesn't know what water is.
I'm European, criticising our government here in Belgium is our national sport.
So? Your public opinion is still heavily guided and controlled.
And they don't even take it further than "criticisms", which is somehow confused for "disagreeing with the presentation style" or "wishing the quiet part to be kept quiet". When they do, it doesn't change anything materially.
"Nobody protests like the French do" (which applies to Belgians as well) is one of the griftiest scams ever sold.
Omg, they are talking about you!
"Lemmy, an open-source social media platform, is not explicitly banned in China, but its usage and accessibility can be subject to censorship and restrictions due to the country's strict internet regulations. The platform operates on the ActivityPub protocol, which allows for decentralized communication between different servers. However, there have been concerns raised about certain instances of Lemmy, such as Lemmy.ml, where administrators have been accused of being pro-Chinese government and actively censoring critical comments. This can affect the content and discussions available on those specific instances, but it does not necessarily reflect the entire Lemmy network. Users in China may face difficulties accessing certain instances or content due to the Great Firewall and other censorship measures ."
There are Marxists on Lemmy, articles written by liberals that are afraid of that or want to drum up anti-Lemmy sentiment don't really form an argument for anything against what people here are saying.
Love unsourced quotes
Love random links that don't contain the quote
It's le chat mistral, it gives sources. Go to the reddit link and read the comment section.
That's why I'm here. I do like the style of VRT in flanders. They allow everyone to come there. All political parties.
Yesterday they showed the earthquake that reached Bangkok. The last few days they showed the protests in Istanbul.
But, I haven't heard anything about the protests in Jakarta. Nothing about how a military person has become the new president in Indonesia.
"Prabowo Subianto Djojohadikusumo (EYD: Joyohadikusumo; born 17 October 1951) is an Indonesian politician, businessman, and retired army general serving as the eighth president of Indonesia since 2024."
For some reason this doesn't seem to be important.
And that's why I enjoy social media without a centralised authority.
China heavily controls their population. Just what it is.
Is it bad? Singapore do it, and west let them
Girl at work tried to use DeepSeek so I showed her some questions and then asked the same questions on le chat mistral.
A little bit of a different answer 😁
Are you talking about Tiananmen Square?
Chinese companies own 80% of cobalt in Congo. They use this to dominate the battery market
Source?
They subsidise EV and phone companies. So that I get those items on the back of Chinese tax payers.
If they are fine then that is fine
I showed tank man, just literally no answer. But she asked about how Turkish Uyghurs were treated (she's Turkish diaspora). Then it showed some very different answer than le chat mistral.
Basically the answer on DeepSeek is something you guys here would copy paste lol
I showed tank man, just literally no answer. But she asked about how Turkish Uyghurs were treated (she’s Turkish diaspora). Then it showed some very different answer than le chat mistral.
Okay. And what do you want the Chinese people to do?
Basically the answer on DeepSeek is something you guys here would copy paste lol
You're laughing at the wrong person. I'm not a socialist
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/chinas-cobalt-supply-dominance-by-2030/
Okay I misread about the 80% figure. It's more about 50%. They just control 80% of the output through majority stakes.
But Chinese companies are going after all the cobalt in the world. It's their industry that they want to shine in.
"Singapore does it", my boss worked there and told me this week multiple times that Singaporeans are the most selfish ego centered people he has ever met. My wife grew up in Bintan, and she agrees. They are basically the Americans of south east Asia.
The subsidies are trickle down economics, heavily criticised by socialists.
Although income inequality is dropping in china. 0,35 Gini. In USA it's 0,41. But here in the EU, it's 0,29.
And where I live, it's 0,26.
We're still the most socialist.
Okay I misread about the 80% figure. It’s more about 50%.
Be careful next time
It’s their industry that they want to shine in.
That is normal. USA does it too, don't you think?
“Singapore does it”, my boss worked there and told me this week multiple times that Singaporeans are the most selfish ego centered people he has ever met. My wife grew up in Bintan, and she agrees. They are basically the Americans of south east Asia.
Why are you talking about your boss and your wife? We're talking about Singapore which also heavily control their population
The subsidies are trickle down economics, heavily criticised by socialists.
Source?
Although income inequality is dropping in china. 0,35 Gini. In USA it’s 0,41. But here in the EU, it’s 0,29.
We’re still the most socialist.
Socialism is more than income
And thanks for links
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And you’re allowed to do it because we allow opposition. That’s democracy.
It's absolutely crazy how brainwashed westerners are to believe that Democracy is when the people can't control policy, but they're allowed to impotently post criticism of it online.
Impotently?
When I say that china is just another capitalist nation, then your whataboutism to other capitalist nations does not defend china
It proves my point.
I am not interested in defending China. I want you to know that West is not holy
China heavily guides public opinion, there’s no opposition allowed.
It is good then. Many oppositions only care about themselves
So the opposition, ml instance, only cares about themselves and thus should be heavily censored?
I thought we were here on Lemmy so that we could choose what content we see and which content we want to upload.
I said "many oppositions only care about themselves" not "all oppositions only care about themselves"
Ah yes, only the opposition that you belong to 😁
How convenient
Yes, it's convenient. I don't have to worry about ethno-nationalists, and chauvinists
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You are European. USA will not interfere with your liberal democracy
Maybe you're sleeping under a rock. We're currently rearming because of tensions with the USA.
Socialism is not "lower Gini coefficient." Socialism is a Mode of Production chategorized by public ownership being the principle aspect of the economy, unike Capitalism where the reverse is true. Large firms and key industries are firmly publicly owned in China, while the private sector covers small industry and self-proprietors. Key industries, like steel and banking, are near entirely state owned. In Belgium, this is not the case, in fact it's quite the opposite.
This is why China is developing and improving key metrics at a much faster rate than dying western Capitalist countries. Adopting a Marxist understanding of economics allows better analysis of how to improve economies and use that for the benefit of all.
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