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After rolling out its password manager to a limited number of users in April, Proton has finally released the service to the general public. The tool, called Proton Pass, uses end-to-end encryption to keep your usernames and passwords away from third parties, including Proton itself. It also lets you create and store randomly generated email aliases that you can use in place of your real address.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't care which password manager you use, as long as you use one (and it's secure). It's such a game changer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

so this means use a password manager that isn't lastpass.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

https://proton.me/pass

It looks pretty good. I'm well ensconced in bitwarden, but I'd totally check this out too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Security wise, there´s probably no reason to consider leaving Bitwarden. Feature wise, bitwarden already has almost all bases covered when it comes to being a password manager. UI is where it would probably be easiest to get ahead. Pricing on the other hand seems a bit expensive on Protons side. The have the "limited offer" now for 1€ a month, which is already 2€ more per year than Bitwarden, but they write that the regular price would be 4,99 a month, which would be beyond rough compared to BW.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd assume there's a price tier that includes their other premium services though I think? So you'd also get multiple email addresses with them, 500gb cloud storage, and their VPN's premium features. Not everyone will want all that but if you do it seems like a good deal as a bundle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah that is the Proton Unlimited plan.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For extra 2€ a year you get to keep your passwords overseas…..might be something worth considering.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What does "keep your passwords overseas" mean?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

BitWarden user as well. LOVE it. I really can't imagine life without it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you have IOS, then their password manager has all the features proton has, fake emails, 2 factor encryption, for free, these are paid features on proton.

On the other hand proton is open source. and can use it on non apple devices, android, linux, windows.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Proton open source is mainly a marketing facade.

All the code is in a giant repo all mixed (drive, email, and so on) with no documentation whatsoever. Technically it's open source, but you can't take it and self host the service like you can do with a real open source product

Edit: I just watched and it's even worse than I imagined. No server components are open sourced and the client parts are hard coded to access the official servers. It's like if I say "this car is open source. Except the engine, all the parts are proprietary design to work only with the secret engine, and anyway there aren't any instructions, good luck with your diy"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I guess to me, being open source is more about the ability that it can be audited. I don't care whatsoever about hosting my own proton mail / drive / vpn (which I use constantly all the time) but I do care if it's audited and secure.

That said, I know they claim to be open source and audited, but I've never double checked those claims. Probably should.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To name more alternatives, Bitwarden is 10 € per year and you get to support an open source project.

[–] fryman 1 points 1 year ago

I recommend Firefox relay for email aliases. They have a free tier, but I very much like having a subdomain, $1/month.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Unfortunately I need my password manager available on all the platforms I use. I love Apple's, and I totally trust them with my data, but I can't install it on any browser or my Windows or Linux machines so it's a nonstarter for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Honestly, it's just better to use bitwarden, as they have more reputation, or keepass and syncthing if you want to keep your passwords off the internet completely

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see any reason to migrate away from 1Password, which works great for me. I have a family plan and everyone in the house has their own personal vault.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For me it was the subscription that pushed me away. Now on BitWarden, very happy.