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[–] [email protected] 166 points 1 year ago (14 children)

This is the propaganda I can get behind.

And with trolleybuses powered on a renewable grid, it's zero gallons!

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Or maybe tell bosses that if your job can be done remotely it should be done remotely. Then there's more room on the bus for people who need to be in meatspace to do their jobs.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If only bosses were open to persuasion.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Yeah, tell it my boss. I had this conversation today with her.

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[–] odium 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

While I agree with the comparison in the post, the trolleybus powered by renewable energy shouldn't be compared to gas cars.

It should be compared to electric cars powered by renewable energy.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

I disagree, the bus is still replacing the purpose of the gas cars. The bus should just be compared to both gas and electric cars.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We used to have trolleybuses when I was a kid in the 70's, they were so insanely much more nice to ride than a diesel. No bad smell, and they were smooth and quiet.

I guess we will get back to something similar soon, but with batteries.

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Acktually, to use a VPN, you would need to turn on your PC or phone, which uses a small but existent amount of petrol -🤓

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Solar power. Checkmate, atheists.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hydroelectricity, nuclear, wind and solar BABEEYYYYYY!!!!!

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Very hard to deliver milk over VPN

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 year ago (4 children)

68 men plus the driver makes 69, amirite?

[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 year ago (4 children)

But the driver is already at work

[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That made me laugh out loud in the literal sense of the phrase

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Ah, you should see buses in my city. Dirty, thirty years old, overpopulated graves on wheels with no air conditioners.

Never again.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That one bus company in the nearby city that absolutely refuses to replace their miserable old buses 🥴🤡 while the others run modern air conditioned hybrids, and some fully electric

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

with no air conditioners.

Dear Faust. Are they using Soviet minibuses?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thirty years old is a perfectly reasonable age for a big chunk of a city's fleet. You're still talking kneeling busses.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Recently visited York (UK) and they have a fantastic bus system - and they're electric.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

But everybody loves cars! Just look at how many cars people buy all the time!

/s

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I could take 68 men. That's a normal Saturday night for me.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

But that'll take away people's freedom to pay a subscription for heated seats 😔

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Despite having the tube and double-decker busses, London is the most traffic congested city in the world.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-10/these-are-the-world-s-most-congested-cities

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago

Imagine how bad it would be without the tube and busses! All these people trying to drive in London? Just thinking about it I shudder and I've never even seen London.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Good job they have them, in that case!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

According to a study conducted in 1000 cities in 50 countries based on data from connected vehicles and phones. Not disagreeing with the premise but I expect there are plenty of other more "congested" cities, visit Manila or Jakarta for example. The UK should however definitely do more to fund its public infrastructure.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Gallons? Shouldn't it be liters?

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Shamelessly stolen from I can't remember.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only issue I have with this is there's a British gallon (that is DIFFERENT from the American gallon) that is used to measure milk. :D. That was the only place I saw gallon being used.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I believe England, GB maybe, is very much a mixed bag when it comes to measurement standards.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

but this isn't new technology where you can write a 100 bullshit news article about and prais it as the next big thing because it actually works and is efficient

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now consider an electric bus

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It makes a good point but only if your country actually has public transport.

If you live somewhere with zero public transport, the car is your only option.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You make a good point but only if your country actually has roads.

If you live somewhere with no paved roads and only railroads, then that and walking are your only options.

(Sarcasm but I’m curious if you see the point)

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (17 children)

The correct answer actually should -and could- be 0 gallons if they simply cycle to work. Granted, that requires them to have the right infrastructure available, but if (once) that existed, the vast majority of the work force could cycle to work happily. Most people don't live 20 miles or more from where they work

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It could also be 0 gallons if the busses are electrified, or if the rail system is expanded, or if we stop pushing office workers to commute every day.

There are many routes to 0 emissions.

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