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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ran across a short-ish thread on BlueSky which caught my attention, posting it here:

the problem with a story, essay, etc written by LLM is that i lose interest as soon as you tell me that’s how it was made. i have yet to see one that’s ‘good’ but i don’t doubt the tech will soon be advanced enough to write ‘well.’ but i’d rather see what a person thinks and how they’d phrase it

like i don’t want to see fiction in the style of cormac mccarthy. i’d rather read cormac mccarthy. and when i run out of books by him, too bad, that’s all the cormac mccarthy books there are. things should be special and human and irreplaceable

i feel the same way about using AI-type tech to recreate a dead person’s voice or a hologram of them or whatever. part of what’s special about that dead person is that they were mortal. you cheapen them by reviving them instead of letting their life speak for itself

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago

Absolutely.

the problem with a story, essay, etc written by LLM is that i lose interest as soon as you tell me that’s how it was made.

This + I choose to interpret it as static.

you cheapen them by reviving them

Learnt this one from, of all places, the pretty bad manga GANTZ.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago (9 children)
[–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

@BlueMonday1984 "This new AI will push watermark innovation" jfc

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago

the future that e/accs want!

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"what is the legal proof" brother in javascript, please talk to a lawyer.

E: so many people posting like the past 30 years didnt happen. I know they are not going to go as hard after google as they went after the piratebay but still.

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[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago

If musk gets his own special security feds, they would be Pretorian Guards.

[–] nightsky@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Reuters: Quantum computing, AI stocks rise as Nvidia kicks off annual conference.

Some nice quotes in there.

Investors will focus on CEO Jensen Huang's keynote on Tuesday to assess the latest developments in the AI and chip sectors,

Yes, that is sensible, Huang is very impartial on this topic.

"They call this the 'Woodstock' of AI,"

Meaning, they're all on drugs?

"To get the AI space excited again, they have to go a little off script from what we're expecting,"

Oh! Interesting how this implies the space is not "excited" anymore... I thought it's all constant breakthroughs at exponentially increasing rates! Oh, it isn't? Too bad, but I'm sure nVidia will just pull an endless amounts of bunnies out of a hat!

Get in losers, we're pivoting to ~~crypto~~ ~~ai~~ quantum

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago

Update on the Vibe Coder Catastrophe^tm^: he's killed his current app and seems intent to vibe code again:

Personally, I expect this case won't be the last "vibe coded" app/website/fuck-knows-what to get hacked to death - security is virtually nonexistent, and the business/techbros who'd be attracted to it are unlikely to learn from their mistakes.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

In other news, IETF 127 (which is being held in November) is facing a boycott months in advance. The reason? Its being held in the United States.

This likely applies to a lot of things, but that would have been unthinkable before the election.

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago (6 children)

oh dear god

Razer claims that its AI can identify 20 to 25 percent more bugs compared to manual testing, and this can reduce QA time by up to 50 percent as well as cost savings of up to 40 percent

as usual this is probably going to be only the simplest shit, and I don’t even want to think of the secondary downstream impacts from just listening to this shit without thought will be

[–] istewart@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago

Marginally related, but I was just served a YouTube ad for chewing gum (yes, I'm too lazy to setup ad block).

"Respawn, by Razer. They didn't have gaming gum at Pompeii, just saying."

I think I felt part of my frontal lobe die to that incomprehensible sales pitch, so you all must be exposed to it as well.

[–] mii@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago

If I had to judge Razer’s software quality based on what little I know about them, I’d probably raise my eyebrows because they ship some insane 600+ MiB driver with a significant memory impact with their mice and keyboards that’s needed to use basic features like DPI buttons and LED settings, when the alternative to that is a 900 kiB open source driver which provides essentially the same functionality.

And now their answer to optimization is to staple a chatbot onto their software? I think I pass.

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[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Here's my audio/video dispatch about framing tech through conservation of energy to kill the magical thinking of generative ai and the like podcast ep: https://pnc.st/s/faster-and-worse/968a91dd/kill-magic-thinking video ep: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLHmtYWzHz8

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

TV Tropes got an official app, featuring an AI "story generator". Unsurprisingly, backlash was swift, to the point where the admins were promising to nuke it "if we see that users don't find the story generator helpful".

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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

ya know the Nicole the Fediverse Chick spam? this poster thinks it's a revenge Joe job:

https://transmom.love/@elilla/114178587075613485

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[–] gerikson@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We can add that to the list of things threatening to bring FOSS as a whole crashing down.

Plus the culture being utterly rancid, the large-scale AI plagiarism, the declining industry surplus FOSS has taken for granted, having Richard Stallman taint the whole movement by association, the likely-tanking popularity of FOSS licenses, AI being a general cancer on open-source and probably a bunch of other things I've failed to recognise or make note of.

FOSS culture being a dumpster fire is probably the biggest long-term issue - fixing that requires enough people within the FOSS community to recognise they're in a dumpster fire, and care about developing the distinctly non-technical skills necessary to un-fuck the dumpster fire.

AI's gonna be the more immediately pressing issue, of course - its damaging the commons by merely existing.

[–] mirrorwitch@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The problem with FOSS for me is the other side of the FOSS surplus: namely corporate encircling of the commons. The free software movement never had a political analysis of the power imbalance between capital owners and workers. This results in the "Freedom 0" dogma, which makes everything workers produce with a genuine communitarian, laudably pro-social sentiment, to be easily coopted and appropriated into the interests of capital owners (for example with embrace-and-extend, network effects, product bundling, or creative backstabbing of the kind Google did to Linux with the Android app store). LLM scrapers are just the latest iteration of this.

A few years back various groups tried to tackle this problem with a shift to "ethical licensing", such as the non-violent license, the anti-capitalist software license, or the do no harm license. While license-based approaches won't stop capitalists from using the commons to target immigrants (NixOS), enable genocide (Meta) or bomb children (Google), this was in my view worthwhile as a rallying cry of sorts; drawing a line in the sand between capital owners and the public. So if you put your free time on a software project meant for everyone and some billionaire starts coopting it, you can at least make it clear it's non-consensual, even if you can't out-lawyer capital owners. But these ethical licenses initiatives didn't seem to make any strides, due to the FOSS culture issue you describe; traditional software repositories didn't acknowledge or make any infrastructure for them, and ethical licenses would still be generically "non-free" in FOSS spaces.

(Personally, I use FOSS operating systems for 26 years now; I've given up on contributing or participating in the "community" a long time ago, burned out by all the bigotry, hostility, and First World-centrism of its forums.)

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago
[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago
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