this post was submitted on 10 Mar 2025
789 points (98.2% liked)

Buy European

3128 readers
3086 users here now

Overview:

The community to discuss buying European goods and services.

Rules

Feddit.uk's instance rules apply:

  • No racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia or xenophobia
  • No incitement of violence or promotion of violent ideologies
  • No harassment, dogpiling or doxxing of other users
  • Do not share intentionally false or misleading information
  • Do not spam or abuse network features.
  • Alt accounts are permitted, but all accounts must list each other in their bios.

Benefits of buying local:

local investment, job creation, innovation, increased competition, more redundancy.

Matrix Chat

Related Communities:

Buy Local:

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

Buying and Selling:[email protected]

Boycott:[email protected]

Stop Publisher Kill Switch in Games Practice[email protected]


Banner credits: BYTEAlliance


founded 1 month ago
MODERATORS
 
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago

Make musk a millionaire again :)

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I remember a few weeks ago Dutch pension funds sold all their Tesla stock because they felt it wasn't a safe investment anymore. The decision was laughed at on reddit because Tesla still went up a little bit after that, clearly it was a political choice and the uncertainty was just an excuse, surely the Dutch people would be annoyed that politics cost them big gains on their pensions, etc etc.

I feel vindicated. Let's see how low it can go!

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

Down over 50% since the all-time-high in December 2024, post-Trump election.

So that’s definitely a win!

Still needs to drop ANOTHER 90% to get back down to pre-2020 levels though..🤞🏻

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Does anyone know if the insurance for these cars have gone up yet? With them being more dangerous than a ford pinto and all the vandalism you would think the insurance companies would raise the rates.

[–] kn0wmad1c 84 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's up over $60 from where it was at this time last year, so there's still work to do on this clearly overinflated stock

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago

Tesla has been over inflated for years now. At one point (for quite a long time) it was worth more than every other major auto maker combined despite having pitiful profits relative to Toyota or many of the other players.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

220 right now

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 101 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Next up: Elon sueing car drivers for not buying his swasticar just like he tried on twitter with advertisers.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 days ago (4 children)

He will just buy them himself, look at the sales numbers in Canada... 8,600 cars in 3 days! In Canada...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the canadian Feds are looking into that, and I hope they fine the ever loving crap out of him.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is it wrong to think that people should go to jail for fraud instead of just fines everywhere?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How are they going to jail the President of the United States?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

No not at all, i have just given up all hope on seeing any kind of justice like that in the united states.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I can see him actually doing this

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

That particular situation looks like it may be due to how the process worked and government comments that the money would be running out earlier than planned.

Apparently dealers weren't required to submit at the time of sale, but on a monthly or quarterly basis instead, which is a very common timeline for businesses to handle things like that. But after the announcement of the program ending early, Tesla submitted everything they had pending immediately, which makes complete sense.

I have not done a lot of research on this particular topic, and the little I have done may not have been accurate sources, but that situation would line up without needing to grasp at any crazy theories.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

That's a very low effort fraud, by the way

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Suing people for not buying tesla stock and suing those who sell it.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fucking fire Elon so Tesla can actually make good shit. Honestly man, Elon could've just stfu and collected money.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have an alternative proposition:

As a society, we should all agree that car culture is not good. It is not good for the health of cities, not good for the envinronment, not good for anything really. Let's get as far away from cars as possible and start improving public transport and other ways of moving. One thing I would love to see is more shade in cities, from trees. Way way way more trees.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I assume you're talking about cities where it's baking sun and so too hot to walk. One problem. Trees don't like that either and so need artificial irrigation. Plus trees tend to do lots of damage to drains and sewers as their roots seek water. Generally trees and cities aren't a great mix except in certain areas (green spaces which are maintained).

Are you speaking as an American or a European? Because I generally think American cities are hostile to anything except cars (being built after cars) and European cities are hostile to cars (being built before cars).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I've seen videos of people regreening deserts and it was kinda cool. They like carve out a U shape and plant things that work for the type of environment and it keeps water longer.

I know that wasn't your point and it's a complete non-sequitur but I enjoyed the vid.

I think it was videos like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7pyGgBmzDY

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I visited a few larger european cities and I got to admit that I don't feel the same.

All but a few I saw were changed to accommodate car traffic to a high or extreme level and only after recent decades there is some incentive to shrink the area that is dedicated to motorized traffic and parking zones.

Being from germany my perception of how hostile cities can be towards pedestrians might be skewed compared to american experiences.

The dutch way off a professionally thought out and highly efficent pathway for cyclists and extended pedestrian zones comes to mind as well as a plan to redesign Paris as a pedestrian tourist powerhouse as it struggles with perceived pollution, noise and heat thus diminishing its touristic visits.

Like you said, Paris was build before cars were widespread and could return to a modern resemblance of it's old self. I feel there is immense touristic potential in catering this idea creating pilot projects for hundreds of metropolitan areas where old infrastructure is maintained in presentable fashion.

So I feel that there are good reasons to reevaluate how we want to change our older densely build areas to find a good balance, ensuring that local population has ways of living their everyday live in timesaving and fulfilling manner but also creating spaces that are worthwhile, relaxing to stay in.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Down with Tesla!!

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 days ago (2 children)

More dramatic to say $320 billion in market cap has been destroyed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

No, rather $320 billion dollars in speculative value has simple been unrealised! 😉

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Or that it's down 34% since the start of the year. At this rate the company will be bankrupt by the 3rd quarter.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They dropped 72% in late 2021 albeit over 15 months. What I'm saying is, they can beat that record, and quicker this time... I believe in them!!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A fair price for the stock is 0.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Hope this guy ends up piss-poor and very sad.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nikola spinning in his grave so hard, EVs can charge up there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

He charges Euro cars only

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I feel bad for the engineers that work there. But I feel great that it's literally destroying musk net worth.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t. They work for a terrible guy and they KNOW it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Many of them are immigrants who got in with work visas so they can't easily change jobs. Elon knows this and exploits the situation. It's all just terrible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

maybe they will lose their jobs and be hired by other EV companies.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

They should’ve started looking for new roles right after his inauguration speech

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Crash, bitch, crash!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It seems it'll sink on to 252 the moment the markets open, if I understand Yahoo finance correctly.

I don't really understand what the pre-market value is, but it seems to mean the value keeps on fluctuating even after the markets close and no stocks formally trade hands. And it looks like Tesla is going to have yet another rough day.

I don't feel bad for any of the idiots losing their money on this. They all had plenty of time to get out - if they sold after the CEO made a nazi salute they would pretty much get out on top. Whoever is a shareholder deserves anything coming for them. (Sadly that includes myself, indirectly through the Norwegian sovereign wealth fund. Bummer. Oh well, I had it coming.)

Edit: Half an hour after the markets open the stock has dropped to ~241. Lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I also hold some Tesla because my retirement fund consists of multiple index funds, some of which hold Tesla.

I'm good with Tesla losing value though. It hurts Elon more than it hurts me.

load more comments
view more: next ›