First eggs, now coffee?
Man, my breakfast is getting real slim nowadays.
this post was submitted on 09 Mar 2025
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It's like those people saying quit your every day coffee/breakfast/lunch/cigarette and you will afford a house.
Finally, housing issues solved
Time to start the french special: bred, butter, jam and a cigarette.
With these tobacco prices??
Looking forward to price hikes far beyond the actual cost to middlemen. The eggification of another good.
Finally! I'm so glad people are starting to realize just how much we're getting fucked.
"Product costs 5% more to bring to market? Better increase the price by 20%!"
The coffee price hikes have stemmed from lower production in important coffee growing regions, particularly in top grower Brazil, reducing the availability of beans.
That's the closest I could find in the article as to a reason. It'd be nice to know if it was just a bad year or if this is going to be a permanent challenge going forward due to climate change or some other factors.
Coffee can be a pain to grow. As someone else mentioned, you have to have the right environment (rain, sunshine, soil, etc).
Adding to this is that it’s easier to grow other things that are in just as much demand. Vietnam has switched to growing durian fruit — less fussy and makes them just as much money.
Coffee is quite sensitive to environmental factors and only grows in certain specific regions as a result. Those factors are being upended by climate change. Coffee is going to very rapidly become a luxury product.
Billionaires don't care. Twenty dollars or two dollars for a cup is effectively the same price to them; insignificant. It's the rest of us that get fucked.
Those factors are being upended by climate change.
How, exactly?
It's my understanding that coffee does best in warm climates. Shouldn't global warming, at the very least, change where we grow coffee as opposed to just removing the areas we can grow it in?
It's not quite as simple as that and there are other growing conditions that are required. If we take Arabica, it requires a very small window temperature window, sunlight but not so much it scorches the plant, a particular pH of soil, and consistent rainfall.
Climate change brings unpredictability to growing conditions so even if you had to move where you grow it, it won't necessarily mean it'll grow well. Plus different locations can bring on new diseases for the (coffee has its fair share of diseases to combat with) and so new varitals would need to be selected which is no simple task.
As the article points out, coffee is notorious for being fussy when growing it.
Short answer: more atmospheric heat = more energetic weather = more extremes and variation.
Many crops don’t just need an average temperature, they need protection from extremes and the climate they evolved for. Buckle up.
Except we are nowhere near a situation like that. Articles like this don't tell the actual prices because they are so small people might start questioning why they pay so much for coffee.
The poll had a median forecast for arabica prices at the end of 2025 of $2.95 per pound, a drop of 30% from Wednesday's close and a loss of 6% from end-2024.
$3 per pound - $6 per kilo. Or to put it in another way, 4.8 cents per shot of espresso, two of which go in a 16 oz Starbucks latte that costs you $5.75, which would be enough money to buy 120 shots worth of bulk arabica.
If that goes up by 7% or 70% or 700%, the cost of that latte should hardly change.
Logistics cost money
Shucking and processing the beans costs money
Roasting the beans costs money
You're forgetting the most obvious factor: charge the most people are willing to pay.
From what I've heard this is largely due to bad weather due to climate change, as I understand it, we should not expect coffee prices to ever go back to where they were.
For the past 4-5 years it seems prices have only gone up here. It's more than triple now of what it used to be before Covid, and that's only 5 years!
But I'm not an expert, this is just what I've been seeing as a heavy coffee drinker in the supermarket, and what I've gathered from short news tid-bits.
My ground coffee has gone up about 20-30% over the past 2 years. This is just based on memory and not an exact calculation. It’s possible, I’ve misremembered the old price slightly, but either way it has gone up.
The cost of pretty much everything has gone up that much in that time.
As it turns out, more money in the hands of consumers tends to translate to higher prices.
It's almost like, and hear me out, it's almost like businesses charge what people are willing to pay, not what goods cost to produce.
Pretty much. I watched my favorite coffee hut (literally a hut that you drive up to) go from $3 large like 5 years ago to $4, then within a year hit $5. At that point, I stopped going, although funny enough, i did go there today since it was convenient and it's now $5.50... I laughed and said yeah I'm definitely done now. As much as I like coffee, it's now a high-end luxury item that I can no longer afford even occasionally due to everything else raising as well.
As much as I like coffee, it’s now a high-end luxury item that I can no longer afford even occasionally due to everything else raising as well.
You could always make it yourself. Although caffeine pills are the cheapest way to go if it's really caffeine you're after.
Paying $3 for a drink was always a scam. Paying $5 is just like getting ripped off by a drug dealer while thinking you're getting the hook up. Complete insanity.
It's also due to very bad weather/floods in the second largest producer, Vietnam.
And since extreme weather events are increasing in intensity and frequency, it's not going to get better (as a trend at least).
Fucking bummer. Everyone around me will crash and burn, and us non-coffee drinkers will rule the world!
Lol, it only takes a few days to no longer have withdraw effects of caffeine. Some Ibuprofen and Tylenol will take care of the headache in the transition.
Cut out the middle man. I just started roasting raw beans. Costs less than half as much as I was paying before and tastes better than I've ever had before.
You've only cut out the roaster, which does nothing to solve your supply issues.
He may be referring to how coffee shops (even the small ones!) will raises prices higher than their increase in inventory costs.
Right now, since people know coffee is getting more expensive, coffee shops (even the small ones!) will use that alone as an excuse to charge higher prices.
Keep in mind, these businesses (even the small ones!) charge what you are willing and able to pay. They are there to maximize profit off of you. It's not about being your friend. It's not about being on the same side. To think otherwise is to be a naive child and useful idiot.
Global warming makes coffee harder to cultivate, that restricts the supply, hence the price hikes. I guess coffee is going to be a luxury item in the future.
While the world is focused on its own problems, far right populism, and what not, we are oversleeping a great opportunity to rein in global warming. With douchebags like Trump at the helm, the crisis is getting worse and worse. I guess the kids of our kids will read about this time in their history books and wonder how stupid and egocentric we were back then.