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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Tesla stands no chance to compete with Chinese vehicles. It's wild how high quality and cheap these Chinese cars are.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 hours ago (9 children)

I have a better alternative: invest in viable alternatives to driving! expand protected bike lanes, build the damn high speed rail, more trains, trams and bus lines. One more asphalt lane for cars wont solve traffic problems :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

As someone who loves driving cars, I'm completely on board with this. Driving should be optional, and I'd love to leave the car home when I go out partying, or don't want to worry about leaving my nice ride somewhere sketchy overnight.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

That would work for much of the population that lives within 100 miles of the US border, but there is a lot of rural and green space in Canada, and bikes aren't great in Canadian winters. Canada needs good car options too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

As of the 2021 census, nearly 6 million people (16% of the total Canadian population) lived in rural areas of Canada.

84% of Canadians live in cities, and that's where good urban infrastructure is the most needed.
Making car-centric infrastructure mostly electric will help a bit, but not a whole lot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

And spending that money to get us cheaper transit in the long term will probably also free up more resources to help the remaining 16%.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, I agree that mass transit wouldn't really work in areas that aren't as dense, but we should definitely have those where possible. I didn't mean to say we don't need good car options, but we should also have more options besides just cars

Now regarding bikes and winter, I'd say that's more of an infrastructure problem. Finland also has terrible winter, yet they can bike as usual. You should watch this video if you are interested in this theme: "Why Canadians Can't Bike in the Winter (but Finnish people can)"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

I understand that infrastructure is more important to be able to cycle in the winter, even eclipsing temperature in very cold areas. I live in an area where there is no bicycle infrastructure, I'm actually 100x safer riding my motorcycle well below freezing on the road, than riding my bicycle on a beautiful fall day. And I do, I have gear for it .There are cities though, where temperatures don't regularly get super cold and people don't actually have the clothing and gear to cycle in the winter. I would guess in those areas, temperature is more of a factor. In areas where winters are consistently very cold, people already have what they need and are able to cycle if the infrastructure is there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

In cities at least, bikes are just as good as cars in winter. Your city just needs to put as much effort in to building and clearing bike lanes as it does car lanes. Places that give a shit actually plow and salt their bike paths and bike lanes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

In cities at least, bikes are just as good as cars in winte

Your bike has a heater built-in and a way to block out the cold wind and/or rain?

That's usually what people mean when they mention vehicles in the winter, not just the road being cleared

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

This is the way

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (5 children)

Why can't you guys make your own? Its not hard. Musk figured it out.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 hours ago (7 children)

Chinese EVs are very dangerous because of low quality standards. There are plenty of videos with batteries catching fire and the EVs burning up in the middle of the road.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Your opinions on the Cyber truck? (An American EV that is very dangerous because of low quality standards)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Lol goodbye tesla if that happens

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

They've been on sale in Europe for years and Tesla kept market share. Many everyday E-cars are chinese (MG, BYD etc), with Nissan and Citroen too.

But that was before the past couple of months and Tesla is now suffering hugely from reduced sales (70% in some countries) - but that has absolutely nothing to do with the Chinese ecars.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

China isn't our friend. The whole 'make it more financially appealing for the world to not war' is not working. China isn't influencing the world to be decent and at peace. They're Putin's allies and therefore our enemies.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

China can buy our housing to rent it back to us, but we can't buy their EV because other companies won't make as much profit. Great trickle down.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 16 hours ago (10 children)

Yeah China feeling more emboldened to invade Taiwan and talking about wanting to send in troops to gain experience in Ukraine shows they are looking to fill in the power vacuum left by the US and become US 2.0.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

The thing is, if Trump wants to kill Canada's role in US car manufacturing, then it will cost him the car markets in Mexico and Canada. If there's no jobs here to protect, then we'll just drop the tariffs on Chinese EVs. (This is speaking like 20 years down the road). We'll all be driving Chinese cars in that scenario. The tariffs are a total lose-lose situation, so dumb.

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