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After a tense Oval Office encounter with Donald Trump and JD Vance, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy received a warm UK welcome, including an official audience with King Charles at Sandringham.

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer convened a defence summit with European and NATO allies to reaffirm solidarity with Ukraine, discuss unlocking frozen Russian assets, and counter the rift caused by Trump’s accusations of Zelenskyy’s ingratitude.

European leaders fear the spat endangers Western unity and peace efforts and are vowing no negotiations on Ukraine without Ukrainian involvement.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

These headlines man.... "After TRUMP white house meltdown"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Wdym, should have been Trump and Vance right!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

The headline incorrectly suggests zelensky had a meltdown in white house, as it's worded.

[–] LeFantome 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“Keir Starmer will also host European heads of government and the leaders of Canada and Turkey at a special defence summit aimed at presenting a united front on the Ukraine crisis.”

So….a defence meeting with Great Britain, Europe, Turkey, and Canada without the US. This sounds an awful lot like a NATO meeting without the US.

Trump may not have to worry about leaving NATO. They may do it for him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

Thatstheplan.txt

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

King Charles steps into diplomacy; is this soft power or a risky political gamble?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The royals meeting heads of state happens regularly no?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure, but this meeting carries symbolic weight given the ongoing conflict and alliances.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

They could play coy?

[–] [email protected] 113 points 1 day ago

"Sorry our kid turned out to be such a douche."

[–] [email protected] 123 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The motivation now is for Europe to finance the entire war... to ensure Zelensky doesn't need to go back to the US.

Such disgrace. I've heard of "ugly Americans", but this is ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I mean we had to get off the US' teats at some point, it's been 80 years. A pity that it had to happen like this, but we have to look forward and turn Europe into the beacon of democratic ideals that the US refuses to be anymore. It will be a hard and rocky road for sure, but we can come out the other side stronger and better in every way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

The US wanted an obedient Europe but now they no longer want pay for it ... Guess obedience time is over.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Us practically made eu dependant on them for military protection

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Yea, it’s a shame that the American people elected this clown to represent them. I’m really heartbroken they/we didn’t choose better.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago
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[–] [email protected] 210 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

Events from yesterday are sad, not just for Ukraine or even Europe, but they will also hurt US long term.

US right now is on the path of losing its dominance. All the soft power US is losing, China is stepping in. Russia also believes it can once again become a superpower hopefully EU get's its security seriously and won't let them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

they will also hurt US long term

You win the internet understatement of the year.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s why they compromised trump.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Really tired of people saying "this is so bad for the US!"

Yea....no shit. That's literally the whole point of all these insane actions.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago (28 children)

And I'm also getting a little tired of them expecting me to be sad that this is bad for the US. A lot of the "woe is me, the US is losing influence!" Sounds almost as whiny to the non-American audience as some of the MAGA stuff about the world not being "grateful" enough for them.

The US' international influence has been a mixed blessing for a long time. I'm kind of looking forward to seeing what Europe manages to put together as a replacement. Could be a step up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, but this assumes that the EU will be able to get itself together and act. Right wing governments are on the rise and the biggest bloxk opposing them in the EU Parlament are the conservatives. Europe is not known for its fast and swift decision making. Everything takes ages over here.

I just don't see the EU acting in union enoth to be able to face the challenges "stepping up" brings with it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

“Step up” are the exact words Europe needs to take to heart right now. Fuck the US. We’re the worst of everything everyone says about us and we don’t deserve a moment’s sympathy. I mean it’s been literally decades since the last time we pulled Europe’s security out of the fire for them. So show us what you can do without leaning on us.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago (7 children)

It's gone. The USA is a superpower only because of its allegiances. In the past week it's been demonstrated that the US no longer wishes to be a part of that arrangement.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The BRICS partnership (Of which China is a key player) encompasses almost 50% of the world's population, and their Belt and Road initiative is a soft power wet dream.

The world has actually already become multipolar, but most Western media won't make that clear because they are still stuck in the old Colonial mindset of Captialist-Democracy = 100% civilized / Not-a-Capitalist-Democracy = 100% backwards.

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[–] [email protected] 164 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I don't think Zelenskyy was humiliated, it was the US. He stood up for himself well. Trolling and bullying an ally isn't a good look.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I hardly think I’m in some piddling minority in thinking that my country is a fucking disgrace and Zelensky is a righteous man worthy of respect.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

No most of you do but you don't organize so a foreign country has taken control and is dismantling the government

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

It’s interesting that conservative circles are lauding Trump for removing the US from wars in “matters that don’t concern us”. Their take, not mine.

And yet. All of this feels like a seismic shift prefacing going to war.

Even the first term I always had the sense Trump wanted to play with war toys. Akin to him acting like a little boy playing with toy truck when behind the wheel of a construction vehicle. Now he’s more erratic than ever before, and has the people around him willing to do his bidding.

And this is not an administration that would hesitate to draft people.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Thank goodness, I'm embarrassed that the walking cheeto would melt down like that while holding one of the most prestigious offices in my country, although unfortunately I'm not surprised by it. I'm glad Ukraine has other places it's leadership can turn too in this time of need. Sadly, I can only hope that the dark spector of mortality does it's work swiftly in the oval office and this geriatric orange is done for good sooner rather then later.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I hope the UK & EU get all of those tasty mineral rights and Trump get left holding nothing but his limp mushroom dick.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Taking advantage of someone being attacked so you can extort their mineral rights is a low thing to do. No need to act like vultures.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago

I hope Ukraine keeps its mineral rights, and we all fund their war. We should be thanking them for kicking Russia in the cunt, not taking away their resources while they fight a war for the EU and NA.

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