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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Lmao. The “organic” labeling has made it to electronics.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Certified Artisanally Hand-Crafter Code

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

just as meaningless too!

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Not sure how to interpret this. The use of any tool can be for good or bad.

If the quality of the game is increased by the use of AI, I'm all for it. If it's used to generate a generic mess, it's probably not going to be interesting enough for me to notice it's existence.

If they mean that they don't use AI to generate art and voice over, I guess it can be good for a medium to large game. But if using AI means it gets made at all, that's better no?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (35 children)

People want pieces of art made by actual humans. Not garbage from the confident statistics black box.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What if they use it as part of the art tho?

Like a horror game that uses an AI to just slightly tweak an image of the paintings in a haunted building continuously everytime you look past them to look just 1% creepier?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Would the feature in that horror game Zort where you sometimes use the player respon item and it respons an NPC that will use clips of what a specific dead player has said while playing count as AI use? If so, that's a pretty good use of AI in horror games in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

That's not generative, since it's just copying player input. Feasible without AI, just storing strings for later recall.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd argue that even if gen-AI art is indistinguishable from human art, human art is better. E.g. when examining a painting you might be wondering what the artist was thinking of, what was going on in their life at the time, what they were trying to convey, what techniques they used and why. For AI art, the answer is simply it's statistically similar to art the model has been trained on.

But, yeah, stuff like game textures usually aren't that deep (and I don't think they're typically crafted by hand by artists passionate about the texture).

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am for the most part angry that people are being put out of work by AI; I actually find AI-generated content interesting sometimes, for example AI Frank Sinatra singing W.A.P. is pretty funny. This label is helpful to me so that I know I'm supporting humans monetarily.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (3 children)

They cannot possibly assure customers that remote devs aren't using copilots to help them code.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Generative AI is a technology that can create pictures, movies, audio (music or voice action) and writing using artificial intelligence

By their definition of Gen AI, it's unclear to me if the label says anything about code. I'm not sure I would consider it "writing."

[–] mke 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This might be a little off-topic, but I've noticed what seems to be a trend of anti-AI discourse ignoring programmers. Protect artists, writers, animators, actors, voice-actors... programmers, who? No idea if it's because they're partly to blame, or people are simply unaware code is also stolen by AI companies—still waiting on that GitHub Copilot lawsuit—but the end result appears to be a general lack of care about GenAI in coding.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I think it's because most programmers use and appreciate the tool. This might change once programmers start to blame gen AI for not having a job anymore.

[–] mke 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

There remains a significant enclave that rejects it, but yeah, it's definitely smaller than equivalent groups in other mentioned professions. Hopefully things won't get that far. I think the tech is amazing, but it's an immense shame that so many of my/our peers don't give a flying fuck about ethics.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

There remains a significant enclave that rejects it, but yeah, it's definitely smaller than equivalent groups in other mentioned professions.

Reporting in.

I think the tech is amazing, but it's an immense shame that so many of my/our peers don't give a flying fuck about ethics.

Yup. Very much agreed here. There are some uses that are acceptable but it's a but hard to say that any are ethical due to the ethically bankrupt foundations of its training data.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I noticed a bad trend with my colleagues who use copilot, chatgpt etc. They not only use it to write code, but also trust it with generally poor design decisions.

Another thing is that those people also hate working on existing code, claiming it is communicated and offering to write their (which also ends up complicated) version of it. I suspect it's because copilot doesn't help as much when code is more mature.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Indie studio teams are pretty small so its possible, I personally hate that the word copilot ever even appears and never ever autogen code, but moreso I'm sure the stamp refers to art, texture, and sound.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

Good shit. A carefully thought out handcrafted experience will always be better than interactive slop.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Reminds me of the 70s when suddenly everything was "Eco-Friendly".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I remember an old song "I'll go green when they go green and they'll go green but not really green more like aquamarine" and it appears to no longer exist on the internet.

Another song I can't find is about a guy who tells the story of all his past lives and in each he was a whore and someday he'll be a whore again.

Really wish songs would stop disappearing.

[–] sus 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The first one is "Go Green" by Mitch Benn

found it in 2 minutes just by googling the lyrics in your comment, specifically this search:

"go green when they go green"

We’ll go green when you go green
You’ll go green when he goes green
We’ll get as far as aquamarine or so
But we’re still gonna call it green

but I couldn't find the second one

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

And it looks a lot like the ol Nintendo seal of approval (or whatever they call it).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Doesn't mean much without validation

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I'm quickly going to create an AI named "No Gen".

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