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What's the story with Mailbox.org 2FA? (lemm.ee)
submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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I'm looking to finally get my spouse and I both onto a non-G email service with a custom domain. Having storage and calendars to replace Drive is the deal-maker with the spouse.

I've been using Proton as my alt email for years, but all the new crypto bells and whistles just seems sus from a business management perspective. I get it, they're Swiss, but still.

But looking at Mailbox.org, their 2FA situation seems bonkers. That's the dealbreaker for me.

All I really need is IMAP, webmail, and actual security without feeling like I'm going to be doing this all again in 5 years to get out from under another crypto bro.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

i use TOTP with mailbox.org. definitely weird but i rarely log into the web interface. i just use imap and webdav clients.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Sure, but I also have to consider my spouse and their habits, which are anchored to a shiny Google experience. If it was just me, it wouldn't be a big deal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Same. I use the website to create new alias and thats all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I recently switched from Proton to Fastmail...then I found out it seems like they have done union busting in the past. I already paid for it, and they are certainly the lesser evil, but I think I'm gonna get a lifetime ~~mxmail~~ mxroute account during black friday this year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Wow. They offer that? Do you know how it works?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I went through the same transition a few weeks ago. Fuck that Proton CEO.

I ended up with Migadu for email and selfhosting Baikal for contacts and calendars. No complaints so far.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Doesn't Migadu work for calendars? Its a bit finicky, but I used these instructions and it worked for me.

Not sure about contacts though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I never tried, or even thought it an option. I'm trying to self host as much as possible, except for email.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Does baikal work for reminders and support caldav/carddav? Currently I'm using a VPS running nextcloud for contacts, calendar, and tasks/reminders but I have an old Dell server collecting dust that I was going to start selfhosting on.

I was going to just selfhost Nextcloud, but I don't use Nextcloud for cloud storage, just contacts, calendar, and reminders. Soooo baikal might be a better option for me

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes it does both calDAV and cardDAV!

I was on the same path as you, I didn't like the nextcloud bloat. Came across baikal and it just worked perfectly from the start. I use it both on desktop and android, no issues with sync. As for the reminders, I guess they are baked into the events, because the events work nicely on my phone. Definitely worth a try I'd say!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Thank you for replying a month later! I'll have to give baikal a go, it sounds very interesting

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I am in exactly the same position as you. Let me know how you get on with the transition - it might save me some teething problems later!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Meet stalwart, and all you want is jmap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In out of the loop, what's the crypto stuff?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Proton Wallet product

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Oh that. Thank you

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Just turn on the mailbox beta in the account settings and you can get regular TOTP when logging into the webui