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[–] [email protected] 3 points 26 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

At this point I feel like Canada could only join if:

  1. Canada did a lot of work to meet the regulations as set forth by the EU.
  2. Canada had successfully rerouted the majority of it's trade to EU members.

If Canada were to try to join the EU at this time, something tells me the US government would call that an "attack" of some kind, and would hurt Canada with tariffs greater than what was just threatened, or something worse than tariffs. Furthermore, if Canada started trading the majority of its oil and gas to the EU, this would create big fucking problems for the US, which would again, cause the US to create problems for Canada. Furthermore, this would probably kneecap Russian gas sales to the EU, so Russia would also suddenly be working it's ass off to prevent such a thing at all costs.

I suppose it is possible, but there is an enormous amount of work that would need to be implemented, so I don't expect it would happen any time soon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 44 minutes ago

Even if it was possible, wouldn't it require a huge amount of work on the Canadian side to implement the European level of regulations?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Well they fucked up the thumbnail, unless Vancouver island and the other islands on the west coast arent allowed to join

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

Consumer protections and laws against engineered obsolescence? Yes, please!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

As a Canadian, absolutely. Most of the relational downsides have dropped away at this point, even - Trump wants a less porous border and less trade. CBC did an article on this recently, though, and basically said while possible it would be too mean to Bosnia for the EU to even consider, on their end.

At the very least, we need a separate defence pact with Europe in case Trump rethinks his annexation strategy, and should give Europe access to whatever trees and cool rocks it wants in return.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well Canada already has borders with France & Denmark if I recall correctly

[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The Greenland (so currently Denmark) land border is real, and might have the weirdest history of any border now, which is saying something. Saint Pierre and Miquelon are separated from us by 45 km of sea, though, so you might as well include Iceland.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Wasn't there some island you had a friendly dispute over with bottles of spirits being exchanged ? Got resolved a couple of years ago by splitting it down the middle ?

Edit here you go, Hans Island, split down the middle in 2022

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisky_War

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

As a Canadian I'd be in favour of starting with joining the Schengen zone. A currency union might be a hard sell as our economy benefits from being able to float the dollar for exports, but it would probably still be a net benefit once trade with the rest of the EU improved and regulations got normalized.

Transitioning should start with more and tighter trade links. Working toward harmonizing rules and dropping tariffs. There'd be a lot of sticking points.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

You already laid the whole plan... I guess it's decided then, you are in

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't say anything about this topic in particular. But I saw this link to an overview what EU is doing for its members on Lemmy yesterday. Which could be interesting for you as well.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Lol, my tired brain thought for a moment EU was highlighting what it's doing for it's Lemmy-members 🀣

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I had a hard time writing that sentence, I totally get you :D

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Well considering they have an official Mastodon outlet...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Wouldn't that mean that the borders to the USA would be closed or more strictly controlled? As far i know, US Citizens need a visa to enter the EU.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

As an American, this would be awesome. The northern US states need to know how this feels from the other side. I live in Texas, and the way we treat the border with Mexico is a fucking travesty. Maybe if all the red northern states had their daily lives upended by this, they'd stop voting for stupid political grandstanders.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Given the trajectory of the last few weeks I don't think that would be a bad thing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Yes. Maybe Trump wouldn't care at this point, though. And, the Canadian public is really pissed, so it would go over smoothly if it happened immediately.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Not for vacation or something they don't, but it is progressively getting tighter

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

If it's possible and they want to I would greatly welcome them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ibx2cat makes a great point in that we should fix our interprovincial trade and logistics before joining the EUπŸ‘

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, more robust rail links and fixing some of the dumber parochial interprovincial trade rules.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Only if we got to keep the loonie

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Pretty much every part of the EU is in some way negotiable. You absolutely can join the EU without adopting the currency.

The main exception is Schengen. You can't become any kind of EU country without being part of the single market/open boarders agreement.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just because the Euro doesn’t smell like maple?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

Man, I still have one of those bills in a ziplock, and it still smells like maple.

The mint insists it never happened.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, with regards, from Kentucky.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also from Kentucky, and I second the motion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Not in Kentucky but I agree too

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I was joking about this in another thread.