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What kind of things could a person carry to sell and how if they ever had to forcibly leave?

I read diamonds are worthless second hand.

Solid gold seems legit but not sure if coins or jeweler is best.

I saw something about getting gold chains to trade individual links in a emergency.

Are there any other good tips?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Good usecase for bitcoin, bring your private key

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not sure why downvoted. It’s just memorizing a username and password.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Stupid question. How do you then get cash for that wherever you end up? Do you need a bank account?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If you aren't trying to hide the money, just find an online exchange like Coinbase or Kraken (they'll ask your real identity of course), then link to bank account, and voila!

Also there are bitcoin ATMs everywhere. They'll also ask for your identity these days.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Same as with everything else: you sell them to someone willing to buy

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There are random bitcoin/crypto ATMs in some major cities.
So probably there. Dunno if they require an account.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If you use a decentralized trading platform like Bisq, you can even use face to face cash trades that keeps no logs of anything that ties to your identity.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you are fleeing from the US, get a bunch of guns. Gotta make money from illegal weapon sales overseas, just as the founders intended. 😎

God Bless The 2nd Amendment πŸ™

(Also, build a backyard nuke while you're at it, sell it to the Libyans)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Lol good luck carrying all that.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If you're crossing a border they'll try to customs you about gold coins/bars, jewelry you can claim is like, a precious family heirloom or your wedding ring or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Could you clarify customs me? Someone above mentioned I should have some recipes on those. I dk if that's enough.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think its like $10k for in or out of the US and items of value

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Probably a good amount to start over. Grandma wad a refugee and came over with way less. Granted she had to work like uncle ruckus but she also couldn't read either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

From the phrasing "fleeing a country" I imagine they want to circumvent border checks/wouldn't be able to pass a border legally anyway?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

It's unclear. If they're a trans person fleeing the US, they could still pass the border normally for now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm fairly sure these days most refugees at least go through some manner of process in the country they claim asylum in. You can't really exist off grid anymore

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I know some people who largely do exist off grid, but in any case, for asylum claims it's common to claim asylum after having already crossed the border of the target country without going through the checks. My friends who are asylum seekers have done that. I imagine in general you'd have less chance of being deported if you're already living in the country vs trying to cross the border.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

AFAIK, in all anglosphere countries at least, the vast majority of asylum seekers are processed by border patrol shortly after entry, and they certainly would go through your belongings on the premise there was drugs or a nuke or something and find the gold bars.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

US: The way to effectively do thos is to open a series of accounts, in a tree structure, in countries that aren't CRS compliant. Disperse the money into the structure. This will buy time, mitigating losses in the event of an asset freeze, likely not being caught until FACTA reporting to the IRS. Get the money out ASAP. There's better methods if laws don't matter.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You could also explore some crypto options like monero (XMR). It can be theft resistant if you set it up properly.

Edit: Mind replying to me instead of downvoting? What is the problem with crypto in this scenario?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not a topic I'm super familiar with, but I feel I've heard people often are either robbed or have their items confiscated by authorities. Same with unhoused people not wanting to have stuff that would make them a target.

If it was something you had a little bit of prep time for, ziplocking USD or EU and seeing it into a grubby jacket where the repairs would blend in and not garner attention would be the most portable and effective thing to do while minimizing theft potential, other than having all eggs in one basket unless you split it between different garments. Also make sure it is pretty weatherproof to prevent mold damage.

It also has the benefit of being immediately usable, should you need to pay for transport or food. If it was seen in a puffy coat, one could discreetly remove one pack of bills while leaving the rest secure. The immediacy that cash can be used may make up for having something potentially more valuable that you would have to barter or fence, as pretty much any human has a need for cash.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To add that secret compartments in your accessoirs.
My sling bag for example has 2 velcro pouches on each side of the band. You would think they are sewn shut but on closer expections they are actually vecroed.
Using it as a emergency storage for some coins. Helped me once already.

Not putting in a link until requested. No need to advertise :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think I actually had a coat once with a hidden pocket like this that I didn't know about until I had it for quite some time! It wasn't big enough to hold a lot, but it was a very secret stash. Even some coats I have with inside pockets blend in very well, but those probably wouldn't pass someone searching me at a checkpoint of any kind.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My pouches are a sort of faux leather type of material. I couldn't fill it with anything bulky but I could certainly get a small stack of 200€ bills inside without being bulky.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I planned to sew in the coins somehow into my backpack and jacket. But this a good idea for cash.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you are serious, learn a trade. They will always be in demand.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Knowledge is important, without it someone will be like my grandma working every job in town.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Gold is still the preferred way of storing wealth in many parts of the world. You can just take gold bars with you which should have value anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There are actually limits to what you can bring into/out of a country.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Gold caps (teeth) painted with white enamel was the method of choice in the past.

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