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What kind of things could a person carry to sell and how if they ever had to forcibly leave?

I read diamonds are worthless second hand.

Solid gold seems legit but not sure if coins or jeweler is best.

I saw something about getting gold chains to trade individual links in a emergency.

Are there any other good tips?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Heroin is quite compact, and always holds its value of you're travelling from lower socioeconomic to higher.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Rofl fleeing country.

Let me get my brick first.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Unironically this. And gold of course. Some things never change. Humans shelling out for shiny being one of them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago

GOLD JEWELRY

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Bitcoin is best. Can theoretically keep your wallet seed in your head instead of paper or on phone. Anything physical is subject to border guards or other transporation/exgress/ingress assisters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Consider the worst comes to worst, you won't have electricity, let alone internet connectivity. Good luck selling any crypto in those circumstances.

Nope, ye olde Gold & Silver are the way to go. Silver for fractional trades, gold for larger ones. Can't beat a couple thousand years of history.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't it drop yesterday by like 20%?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

close to that at low, but ended up down less than 10%. If you are short term, you had opportunity to make 10% in a day. Long term, it is best performing assets, and should still outperform stock indexes in future. Don't depend on it for your rent money for the month or year, but longer term you can probably turn it into a significant portion of a house or EV.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Monero if you need something that's actually untraceable. However, I guess btc is more likely to hold its value in the long term.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

If you just want to escape your country, instead of buying illegal stuff in new country, a privacy coin isn't a necessity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Get tattoo of wallet seed lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Nah you need to create a cipher in your head, then you tattoo the encrypted seed. Easier to remember than the seed itself, and only readable by you.

Maybe have a second tattoo to remind you what the cipher is lol. Then another for that one...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

I've considered some other options:

  1. become an artist and upload "the art" that has a code based ok the number of lines similar to Japanese multiplication with a cipher something like Moriarty uses for text messages but based on the creation date. Common folk will be not be the wiser. Of course that assumes art is not taken down somehow.

  2. cut my arm/hip open and put a micro SD card or projector in there like in the Bourne identity. Probably could just sew it in clothes but no fun in that. BTW cutting arm open for implant takes months to repair so don't recommend. They say 1 month but bs. Took 3.

  3. code is in my paracord based on knots similar to the Futurama nft episode.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Write disguised poem including your wallet seed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

Don't make it fire incase someone wants to steal yo rhymes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Transfer your money to an overseas bank in your target nation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I Heard there are some complications with that. Some people said consult a lawyer before moving finances.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good advice. Same with real estate. There are all sorts of laws in target nations you'd never expect. For instance, some nations will tax your money hard if you try to leave them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

That's why the question is more focused on the "yeah leave now or guarantee camps and possibly worst" situation vs let Me call my law firm of Pearson Specter Litt LLC.
Tough situations could blow over but better to not start from nothing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Coins vs jewelry doesn't matter. Weight and purity are all that count when selling.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why not just use something like Wise to hold your cash?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

It's a UK company but it says Money can only be delivered to a bank account. Unless I can just load it up like a prepaid card? Which is also a other idea I was considering.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Besides the utility of a go bag.. having portable wealth can get you into trouble with the police or border crossing agents.

Civil asset forfeiture is a very real thing at border crossings. If you must take portable wealth have documentation about where it came from a available

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Keep them receipts. Got it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Receipts don't matter if they (claim to) "suspect" the source of the money used to buy the gold in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lame. Now I need paper copies of my bank statements ?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

US police (including border agents) are stealing things from citizens. It doesn't matter if you have bank statements or receipts if you are dealing with someone who will just steal your shit and claim legal immunity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

True, Well given the circumstances that could be very possible of corrupt d bags at the border.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A few iphones, they tend to have a high demand and prices are stable for a few years.

This is not advice

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What do you mean by "this is not advice"? You just gave an answer to their request for advice. Your comment is advice.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It only angers your intelligence officials if it is advice. "Not advice" means begging to stay friends. I advise staying friends, overtly, with NSA, to make sure that first they come for others.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Lol imagine selling them on the streets of Panama.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If you’re planning to leave with enough time, register a business or trust or something, transfer your money to a shell company, repeat as necessary then transfer it to the place you’re trying to go.

Use the tools of the people with money not the tools of people who get patted down for loose change by the tsa.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Currency. Paper money that has high acceptance internationally, like US Dollars or Euros, both can be easily traded by local currency pretty much anywhere in the world.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Idk how long the US dollar will have high acceptance internationally. I mean it may not change much or it may change a lot, depending on what happens the next few years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My buddy grandpa left murica to go to his home country but traded all his dollars to local currency. When he got off the boat local currently collapsed hard. Huge fear of mine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Ah fuck that's scary

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Printer ink.

I’m just kidding… listen to all the other smart people in this thread and not me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Well I think ink is worth more per volume than blood.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

Good usecase for bitcoin, bring your private key

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