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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Anyone still remembers the "battery swapping" trend? Nio claims that they can change the battery pack in about three minutes.

Compared with 2020 levels of fast charging, this was extremely fast. But with charging in ~10 minutes, a full battery swap doesn't sound really useful anymore.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I feel like there’s still a use-case for swapping. I’m not an expert but I imagine superfast charging like this can be taxing to the battery and will shorten its life faster. The idea of getting a fresh, fully charged battery at a charging station without having to plug in sounds convenient too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

i believe the only problem with fast charging is when the battery gets too hot. if there’s adequate cooling, i think it doesn’t matter how fast you charge the battery

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

There will be some use cases of course, but the price is too high for most. Currently, the price is 169€/month for the battery rent alone, additional "swaps" cost extra.

At this price point, it doesn't seem economical for me.

[+] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Even besides this aspect, it's an idea that borders on fantasy because it would require every vehicle to have the same size and shape of pack (or perhaps a few different variations) which would require every manufacturer to agree to the standard and build all their vehicles around it.

Furthermore, it would also require a ton of labor to be swapping millions of packs every day with no end in sight. This also introduces a ton of liability because what happens when people fuck up and a car bursts into flames or the pack falls out on the highway, which even if rare, will be happening frequently with volumes this high especially in a job that probably would be considered low skill and low pay (like a fuel attendant job).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

require a ton of labor to be swapping millions of packs every day

It's fully automated. The swapping and moving batteries to charge is done without humans involved. Even the car driving into the swapping bay is automatic these days.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Isn't NIO already operating a huge battery swapping network?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Yes, they are the primary drivers of this "lease your battery"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

With how fast EV technology is evolving I get less and less interested in buying one right now, it seems like anything I buy will be obsolete in a couple of years.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Welcome to buying a computer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My computers last more than 10 years because the parts are upgradeable, unfortunately that strategy doesn't work for cars

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

An EV that you buy now would last you 10 years, especially if it has an NACS port.

There isn’t any car you can “upgrade” after purchase.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes but my car is from 1993 and it's still enough for my needs

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

https://xkcd.com/386/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Sure you can, no one is stopping you from turning your Ford or whatever car into a shitty Lamborghini and I'm sure someone's done it before. I saw a guy make a working car out of godam Lego you can do anything ffs

[+] [email protected] -39 points 3 days ago (5 children)

So still a lot slower than gas, and it's not even 100%

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Imagine having to drive to a station each time you need to fill up your tank instead of just plugging it at home and letting it charge while you sleep.

I would not want to go back to a gas car.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Yup, exactly this. When people ask, I tell them it takes me less than 5 seconds to charge my EV. I plug it in as I get out at night and I have a full “tank” each morning.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Who cares, we also used to ride horse and buggies that took months to get around. Wanna talk about that too?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This isn’t even true. I’ve noticed gas stations seemingly slow their pumps down to show you more ads on those little screens. I used to be able to mute them but that seems rarer and rarer. It often takes me upwards of 10 minutes or more to fill my 20 gallon tank.

I would love to have an electric car I could charge to 80% in 10 min. Hell I’d love to have an electric car.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

What the fuck? It take me less than 3 minutes to fill 16 gallons what kind of shit pump you going to??

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Depends on how busy the gas station is, it’s also much cheaper to charge an EV than pump a comparable amount of gas.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

In Malaysia, we have cheaper gas than neighbouring Singapore. You should watch the Singaporeans cross the border and all the shenanigans they use to coax/ jimmy/ jank/ whatever their tank to take the last 0.5%. Takes much longer than 10 mins. There's probably videos on this also.