Canada

I prefer "double" export tariffs to shutoffs. Electricity 50%, and oil 20%. split between federal and provinces. Stuff like OJ and Bourbon, 50%+ tariffs instead of blocking imports.

Absolutely, soliciting US states to join confederation as a province is something that should be open, official policy, now. You/we can "dress it up" as US constitutional convention (normally 75% of states call for, but 10 provinces too) for exploration of 10 new states joining, or dividing "the union" into Canada and US.

Do we have to hurt socialist Vermont of all things? 🥹

American here, you guys have a huge number here on your side. We need another 1814 in a really bad way.

With a US war declaration, Canada needs to join rest of world aggressively. Eliminating US empire dictated sanctions. NORAD is essential to US global extortion. The only withdrawal to US's declaration of war comes with just "flirting" with US national security diminishment, and freedom from colonization.

Outcompete Mexico on Fentanyl, with a mission to cut Heroin with it for purposes of killing US addicts as a Canadian government program is a better response to end the war than appeasement. No visas for Iran IRGC soldiers while tariffs apply.

American Exceptionalism makes it hard for a lot of Americans to have an "are we the baddies" moment.

Take meeeeee. I have some carpentry experience.

Visited Nova Scotia for work several years ago. I'd go back in a heartbeat! Sign me up, and it'd get me out of Alabama.

That's an evil idea - I love it. (As an American)

I'd take that deal.

Honestly, if we can un-fuck housing then this is a great idea. Problem is I really don't believe we can un-fuck housing at this point.

1. The EU wouldn't take us.
2. Western Canada would see joining the EU as a bad deal. Alberta especially would be very opposed to it.

Canadian politicians see that as overton window. Real cooperation with EU comes with threatening alliance/cooperation with Russia. China, North Korea, Iran relations necessary too. Without Russia relations "threat", including soliciting better deals for NORAD sites, EU will just desperately kiss the diaper in hopes of avoiding their own tariffs which they won't.

No one was stopping Canada from trade with Europe before. Tariff levels are not high/significant. Expect crickets from EU, unless they need to beg Canada to not remove sanctions on Russia specifically, but because they are also US/CIA colonies, on other US adversaries.

Canada needs to not just mention in passing that this is a war declaration, but also treat the US as an enemy until/if they beg for better relations.

I think the shutdown of auto and aerospace manufacturing will do enough damage on both sides.

Relationships between the us and Canada are forever tainted thanks to the orange douche bag. I think it's time to do a few things

Invalidate NAFTA 2.0 and negotiate solely with Mexico when it comes up for renewal.

Also Look at existing agreements with the us and consider them null and void or at the very least about to spoil. Defence agreements technically fall here so let's prep for the us turning Thier backs on us.

Revert copyright laws to more sane say 10 years plus a 5 year extension if warranted and justification is more than more moneies please. Make this retroactive to all works in all mediums in all fields.

Consider poaching talent from the US offer good apples a way out and use the talent to making a greener economy. Let's not rush to the bottom here let's make Canada better stronger and more resilient to energy price swings.

Invest in projects that improve our resilience to market forces. Let's try some ideas out vertical farms solar on new builds micro nuclear reactors lets give the lot a go and see what sticks.

Strengthen our electoral process maybe make a stab at something other than first pass the post. make it so the gop playbook doesn't work here.

This is a war declared by US rulers. Your measures would hurt individual Americans specifically.

Don't worry, things will probably get pretty bad without needing to do all this.

Creating a fake "national emergency" means dictatorial powers. This is a declaration of war because the national emergency is false, and a pretext for war and extortion.

There is a need to suspend our "military alliance"/subservience while these tariffs apply.

How the fuck is Elon fucking musk taking over all these different us bureaucracies? Don’t know but it’s happening. The “law” is a fig leaf. They don’t give a fuck.

Today is the day where "US empire values" makes you rethink your unwitting foreign agent role. :P

Charging access to NORAD seems impractical. I think at that point they’d just annex, and there isn’t much we could do about it.

US military annexation by driving tanks into Ottawa has only counter to bribe a nuclear power to do sufficient damage to destroy US economy/debt sustainability. Playing nice, begging to restore colonial status, is capitulation in of itself. Just waiting for fatigue to accept extortionist demands on sovereignty.

Totally think eliminating Chinese tariffs makes sense, and we should just do that.

I keep hearing we import a lot of furniture from US. China makes furniture. If big 3 auto companies stand with Canada, keep Chinese EV tariffs, but drop solar and battery ones. Cheap batteries would make Canadian EVs competitive even as exports to US with tariffs.

I’m also pretty convinced we shouldn’t retaliate with tariffs – I think those would just hurt Canadian’s.

I like export tariffs the most. Raises revenue without raising prices for Canadians. Tariffs on "useless" US goods can be high, pay a bit more for Mexico/South American agricultural import shipping. Opening up China import competition is cost reduction for Canadians. Plenty of Canadian substitutes in processed food and alcohol.