I'm against forcing 18 year olds to use guns. Give them some alternative like civil/public service and do something good for society.
Ask Lemmy
A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions
Rules: (interactive)
1) Be nice and; have fun
Doxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them
2) All posts must end with a '?'
This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?
3) No spam
Please do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.
4) NSFW is okay, within reason
Just remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either [email protected] or [email protected].
NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].
5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions.
If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email [email protected]. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.
6) No US Politics.
Please don't post about current US Politics. If you need to do this, try [email protected] or [email protected]
Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.
Partnered Communities:
Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu
I am pro mandatory military service, but not as it is done.
Everyone must serve. No getting out of it, but one may delay service by a short period while deathly ill or pregnant.
The military must accommodate all and their families.
Service reoccures every 10 years for 1 year.
Senator, President, judge? Too bad.
Old? You will be accommodated and your experience valued.
About to die but out of delay? Please accept the best medical care possible. Also, your friends and family can visit.
Everyone benefits from strong defense, so everyone must contrubute.
I am pro mandatory military service
I mean... I disagree with you, but...
Senator, President, judge? Too bad.
I agree with this part 😆
What about disabled people?
The military must accommodate all and their families.
Military will clearly provide safe tasks, health care, and pay.
Everyone benefits from strong defense, so everyone must contrubute.
I'll give you a little bit of wiggle room here because you're probably inexperienced with this stuff, but this sentence is massively incorrect.
"Everyone benefits from food so everyone must pay for the food they eat"
"Everyone benifits from housing so everyone must pay for the housing they live in"
"Everyone benefits from police so everyone must pay taxes no matter if they have a job or not"
Senator, President, judge? Too bad.
No getting out of it.
Professional army.
Support and train a reserve army of those willing. Citizens that could support the country and other citizens in the case of an invasion. Some countries do that. I like to think of those.
Only if otherwise necessary general service. E.g. active invasion you can't otherwise oppose, or you can't establish a minimum reserve.
I think military service in general is kind of important since you can actually get attacked (thanks to russia for making my point).
We had mandatory military service for men in germany and it was canceled. I sure hope it stays that way bc it isnt efficient to make kids who have better options waste their time on something they dont actually want to do. We have a professional military for that. AND if we had it, women of course must go too.
But besides that especially in countries known for their warcrimes and batshit crazy politics, like the US, I think its clear that mandatory military training would be a bad idea.
Completely fucked up.
Works best for countries that have a primarily defensive military. You have a large population of resevists to draw on for an invasion, and unless there's something wack going on with your government, there usually isn't a problem of motivating draftees when your country was invaded.
Volunteer militaries tend to need propaganda to get people to join up, even in relative peacetime. That attracts a lot of people who like the idea of shooting people in other countries. Not everyone who joins up is like that, of course. Some are also in bad economic situations and have no other line of work, and some bow to family pressure. In any case, you'll have an easier time convincing them to fight people abroad.
At least in the US, many young small time criminals are given the choice of jail or military.
It is abuse and violation of person's freedom and dignity. It (and people supporting it) should be fought by any means necessary.
How about taxes going to a military? Or is it just being forced to directly do morally abhorrent things?
Or is it just being forced to directly do morally abhorrent things?
Not just "morally abhorrent things", any forced labor is wrong.
Taxation isn't because there's a middle man between your labor and the government?
Well, you raise a valid point, it's also bad of course.
It's just that "forcing you to do a thing (a physical labor) you do not want to do" and "forcing you to give up a part of your salary" are different things.
Amazingly, I'm not a big fan of slavery.
I don't really have a solid stance on it. Case by case, country by country. But at least a country that has citizens that have gone through a little bit of service have people who are at least slightly more knowledgeable on how to defend themselves in case they need to rebel or defend themselves with a gun (so long as the people remember their training).
Join the military, die for your (oil) billionairs! Its an honor!
Here, you pay 6 months wage equivalent to go for only 21 days, or go for 6 months on the front lines and 12 months as reserve
Underdeveloped countries have it.
I think anyone who owns a car and lives in the suburbs or in a rural country area should have mandatory military service.
It should only happen if we need it