What pissed me off was when one of the original mods of the original community pretty much stated that they “owned” the community and can do what they want with it… I was uncomfortable being around that kind of mindset.
this post was submitted on 31 Jan 2025
63 points (97.0% liked)
196
1812 readers
2352 users here now
Community Rules
You must post before you leave
Be nice. Assume others have good intent (within reason).
Block or ignore posts, comments, and users that irritate you in some way rather than engaging. Report if they are actually breaking community rules.
Use content warnings and/or mark as NSFW when appropriate. Most posts with content warnings likely need to be marked NSFW.
Most 196 posts are memes, shitposts, cute images, or even just recent things that happened, etc. There is no real theme, but try to avoid posts that are very inflammatory, offensive, very low quality, or very "off topic".
Bigotry is not allowed, this includes (but is not limited to): Homophobia, Transphobia, Racism, Sexism, Abelism, Classism, or discrimination based on things like Ethnicity, Nationality, Language, or Religion.
Avoid shilling for corporations, posting advertisements, or promoting exploitation of workers.
Proselytization, support, or defense of authoritarianism is not welcome. This includes but is not limited to: imperialism, nationalism, genocide denial, ethnic or racial supremacy, fascism, Nazism, Marxism-Leninism, Maoism, etc.
Avoid AI generated content.
Avoid misinformation.
Avoid incomprehensible posts.
No threats or personal attacks.
No spam.
Moderator Guidelines
Moderator Guidelines
- Don’t be mean to users. Be gentle or neutral.
- Most moderator actions which have a modlog message should include your username.
- When in doubt about whether or not a user is problematic, send them a DM.
- Don’t waste time debating/arguing with problematic users.
- Assume the best, but don’t tolerate sealioning/just asking questions/concern trolling.
- Ask another mod to take over cases you struggle with, if you get tired, or when things get personal.
- Ask the other mods for advice when things get complicated.
- Share everything you do in the mod matrix, both so several mods aren't unknowingly handling the same issues, but also so you can receive feedback on what you intend to do.
- Don't rush mod actions. If a case doesn't need to be handled right away, consider taking a short break before getting to it. This is to say, cool down and make room for feedback.
- Don’t perform too much moderation in the comments, except if you want a verdict to be public or to ask people to dial a convo down/stop. Single comment warnings are okay.
- Send users concise DMs about verdicts about them, such as bans etc, except in cases where it is clear we don’t want them at all, such as obvious transphobes. No need to notify someone they haven’t been banned of course.
- Explain to a user why their behavior is problematic and how it is distressing others rather than engage with whatever they are saying. Ask them to avoid this in the future and send them packing if they do not comply.
- First warn users, then temp ban them, then finally perma ban them when they break the rules or act inappropriately. Skip steps if necessary.
- Use neutral statements like “this statement can be considered transphobic” rather than “you are being transphobic”.
- No large decisions or actions without community input (polls or meta posts f.ex.).
- Large internal decisions (such as ousting a mod) might require a vote, needing more than 50% of the votes to pass. Also consider asking the community for feedback.
- Remember you are a voluntary moderator. You don’t get paid. Take a break when you need one. Perhaps ask another moderator to step in if necessary.
founded 1 week ago
MODERATORS
Ho boy, where to start...
-
The moderators of the community [email protected] had disagreements with the admin team of blahaj.zone (Ada) and decided they wanted to move to lemmy.world.
-
The [email protected] community was locked with an announcement to visit [email protected] instead. This caused confusion/anger among much of the community who preferred the way blahaj.zone is run as an instance.
-
Ada did not want to forcefully reopen the [email protected] community and boot the mod team, but also did not want to leave the users of 196 feeling like they had no choice but to use the lemmy.world community, so she ~~opened~~ promoted [email protected] (which displays as 196) which is run by a different mod team.
-
There was still a lot of disagreement about the attempted move to [email protected], so the mods reopened the previous [email protected] community to placate folks.
The end result is that there are now three 196 communities (plus a 4th on Hexbear I think) which are each relatively active.
Edit: typos.
Edit 2: correction about the origin of [email protected]
there are now three 196 communities (plus a 4th on Hexbear I think) which are each relatively active
This one on Blahaj has by far the most posts. The "original" Blahaj 196 and .world 196 have fewer posts but their most upvoted ones tend to have around the same or slightly more upvotes than the most upvoted posts on here.
It's all so stupid though. Why don't they at least close one of the two 196's? If their migration failed, just admit it and close the community on World. If they truly want to migrate and don't want to moderate on Blahaj under Ada, then close the old one.
So a transporter malfunction basically
I've seen a couple of people say this now, so I will clarify that Ada did not open this community, SoleInvictus did! Ada did however feature it and make a post on the old 196 which lead here.
Edit: This was supposed to be a reply to Stovetop :P oh well
Thanks! I guess my recollection of events might be a bit hazy, I've corrected my earlier comment.
The end result is that there are now three 196 communities (plus a 4th on Hexbear I think) which are each relatively active.
There's also [email protected] which is apparently "196 but no sex or hornyposting"
I can never look at it, because honry is all I got
No glizzes? :(
g-g-g-guzzled😭😭😭😭😭😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞
I've noticed that lemmy.world is delisted from most instance lists, so it's interesting that they'd choose that one. Thank you for the answer!
About that: Lemmy.world is generally disliked for entirely reasonable reasons. They are the biggest instance due to it being seen as the default during the API exodus, and having a large population means that you are going to see a lot of trolls. Their mod policies also are very lenient with trolls, which a lot of people don't like. Also, people are kinda sick of how all the big communities are on .world instead of being spread out across the fediverse.
About two weeks ago, the mods of @[email protected] made an announcement that they were closing the community because they were moving to @[email protected] due to disagreements with this instances moderation policies. I'm not going to touch on what exactly those policies were, and to be honest I don't think it matters. What did piss everyone off was the mod team trying to pick up and and move the entire place without fair warning. It also looked to the public eye like it was done in secret, which made the whole thing look sketchy and gross. This resulted in a huge, huge backlash against the mods, and they reversed course real fast.
This community was formed in reaction to that betrayal, and we've consistently had better engagement than @[email protected] ever since. A lot of the users here are pretty far from being ready to forgive and forget.
Ohh, thanks. I can see why that would cause a lot of anger.
I'm sure every other commenter's pointed this out, but they did pour gas on the fire with a very poorly thought out explanation/apology post (prior to the final "we are reversing course" post) that read very much like "We are sorry that you were offended by our justified and reasonable actions 🥺 pls stop being mad, we're just a small bean"
Nobody mentioned that specifically, actually. That does add more context.
Yeah, they specifically cited not liking that blahaj.zone's policy that mods (and users) should respect neopronouns, no matter how insane they sound. The idea is that if they're a troll, this deals with the problem pretty effectively since nobody wants to be a streaker in a nudist colony, and it also lets the occasional person who actually wants their pronouns to be attack/helicopter to not get bullied for looking like a troll. Point is, the 196 mods thought this was a bad idea. They also didn't like that Ada required them to have a blahaj.zone account to deal with federation issues.
That's not true, they specifically said multiple times that that policy had nothing to do with their decision.
Whether or not we should believe them about that is of course a different question, given that the first any of them publicly floated their harebrained plan was in the replies to some guy bitching about that policy.
Mods here are cooler
I like it here cause they just made rules against tankie behavior. Yes this has kicked up a lot of dirt as the tankies are kicking and sealioning like they usually do when pushed against. But as an anarchist, I like that they have taken this stance as it makes me feel welcome. They also are cracking down on any sort of bigotry in general which I like that they are making it a safe and welcoming place. Lastly, I think the posts are better (although you might be seeing a lot of pro and anti-tankie posting till the dust settles). I just blocked the lemmy.ml instance cause I am fed up with their bullshit
Tankies are so annoying. Authoritarians in general, really.
It split off when the mods of the other one tried to force a migration to .world