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The "1 trillion" never existed in the first place. It was all hype by a bunch of Tech-Bros, huffing each other's farts.
Almost like yet again the tech industry is run by lemming CEOs chasing the latest moss to eat.
The best part is that it's open source and available for download
So can I have a private version of it that doesn't tell everyone about me and my questions?
Checkout ollama. https://ollama.com/library/deepseek-r1
Thank you very much. I did ask chatGPT was technical questions about some... subjects... but having something that is private AND can give me all the information I want/need is a godsend.
Goodbye, chatGPT! I barely used you, but that is a good thing.
I asked it about Tiananmen Square, it told me it can't answer that because it can only respond with "harmless" responses.
Yes the online model has those filters. Some one tried it with one of the downloaded models and it answers just fine
You misspelled "lies". Or were you trying to type "psyops tool"??
When running locally, it works just fine without filters
I tried the smaller models and it's not fine. It's hard coded.
This was a local instance.
Does the same thing on my local instance.
Yes but your server can't handle the biggest LLM.
This just shows how speculative the whole AI obsession has been. Wildly unstable and subject to huge shifts since its value isn't based on anything solid.
The economy rests on a fucking chatbot. This future sucks.
On the brightside, the clear fragility and lack of direct connection to real productive forces shows the instability of the present system.
So if the Chinese version is so efficient, and is open source, then couldn't openAI and anthropic run the same on their huge hardware and get enormous capacity out of it?
OpenAI could use less hardware to get similar performance if they used the Chinese version, but they already have enough hardware to run their model.
Theoretically the best move for them would be to train their own, larger model using the same technique (as to still fully utilize their hardware) but this is easier said than done.
Not necessarily... if I gave you my "faster car" for you to run on your private 7 lane highway, you can definitely squeeze every last bit of the speed the car gives, but no more.
DeepSeek works as intended on 1% of the hardware the others allegedly "require" (allegedly, remember this is all a super hype bubble)... if you run it on super powerful machines, it will perform nicer but only to a certain extend... it will not suddenly develop more/better qualities just because the hardware it runs on is better
Wow, China just fucked up the Techbros more than the Democratic or Republican party ever has or ever will. Well played.
No surprise. American companies are chasing fantasies of general intelligence rather than optimizing for today's reality.
That, and they are just brute forcing the problem. Neural nets have been around for ever but it's only been the last 5 or so years they could do anything. There's been little to no real breakthrough innovation as they just keep throwing more processing power at it with more inputs, more layers, more nodes, more links, more CUDA.
And their chasing a general AI is just the short sighted nature of them wanting to replace workers with something they don't have to pay and won't argue about it's rights.
Nvidia’s most advanced chips, H100s, have been banned from export to China since September 2022 by US sanctions. Nvidia then developed the less powerful H800 chips for the Chinese market, although they were also banned from export to China last October.
I love how in the US they talk about meritocracy, competition being good, blablabla... but they rig the game from the beginning. And even so, people find a way to be better. Fascinating.
You're watching an empire in decline. It's words stopped matching its actions decades ago.
Hello darkness my old friend
It’s knowledge isn’t updated.
It doesn’t know current events, so this isn’t a big gotcha moment
Remember to cancel your Microsoft 365 subscription to kick them while they're down
One of those rare lucid moments by the stock market? Is this the market correction that everyone knew was coming, or is some famous techbro going to technobabble some more about AI overlords and they return to their fantasy values?
Most rational market: Sell off NVIDIA stock after Chinese company trains a model on NVIDIA cards.
Anyways NVIDIA still up 1900% since 2020 …
how fragile is this tower?
Emergence of DeepSeek raises doubts about sustainability of western artificial intelligence boom
Is the "emergence of DeepSeek" really what raised doubts? Are we really sure there haven't been lots of doubts raised previous to this? Doubts raised by intelligent people who know what they're talking about?