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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I love the enunciation. There's an elegance and poise to the consonants that I wish I could do myself.

It does however sound inauthentic, mostly in the tone and pitch. The tone is thin, and the pitch range is really compressed. You seem to be speaking as high as possible constantly, so you have no room to raise and lower your pitch during phrases.

Women's voices are way lower than many people realize. Your recording is pretty illustrative of why most literature on voice training stress the importance of resonance over pitch.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Thanks for the notes! I think you're right.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, If you really want your voice roasted: You sound like a feminine Winnie the Pooh.

Genuinely the voice isn't that bad. You sound like a cartoon character, but a feminine one! I think you're not too far off from having a really nice sounding voice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Ha! You should hear the terrible laugh that escaped when I read your comment.

Thank you <3

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I think it sounds a little underfull (kinda dopey / hollow) this probably means the voice is too large for how light it is. Work more on resonance and size, I recommend starting with the Size v2 clip here: https://selenearchive.github.io/

(If you are unfamiliar with "size", large and small, and "weight", light and heavy, as concepts I recommend listening to more of Selene's clips as she demonstrates those qualities in a voice.)

The light weight in your clip is good though as that is one of the main ways a voice is gendered as male (from being too heavy). It is easier to keep a lighter voice when speaking quietly for a recording - the question I would have is whether you can maintain that light weight at louder volumes, like when trying to be heard across a room or over noise. You might explore these cases and try slides where you go up and back down in volume while modulating weight (try it while staying light weight, try it again where you increase weight as much as you can instead, learn to recognize and control weight semi-independent of the increased volume).

Keep up the good work! 👏 ❤️

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Darn, I think you might be right. I feel kind of stupid now. Yes, I can control resonance and weight, but I've been focusing so much on intonation and so on recently that I basically forgot about them. It does indeed sound like my pitch has climbed up and resonance slipped down. I know what I'm working on this weekend!

I listened through most of the Selene clips once before, but she's almost too good and I started feeling hopeless.

Thanks for your comment!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

lol, not stupid at all - it's legit hard to hear ourselves accurately; I spent like six months stuck in a perpetually underfull place - it was really hard for me to habituate a smaller voice, especially using it fulltime and in public with people who knew be pre-transition.

Looking forward to future clips, feel free to @ me or DM me if you ever want feedback!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You have a very soothing and kind sounding voice, I'm not sure what there is to roast about, besides that maybe you sound a little bit shy. <3

edit: Oh you're the person that mentioned the Rain comic! Thank you for that I've started reading it and got 22 chapters in before I was emotionally a wreck. In a good way! 🥹

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Oh, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The pitch is nice but it sounds like someone is doing a voice rather than a natural voice.

This playlist might help you, iirc it also covers the mistake you're making https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVBTgX4F61IfiDkeZ-B9i1tlfNLMdYCui

The best is to go to a speech therapist. I've also heard it rumoured that you can hurt yourself if you do it on your own. Luckily where I'm from it's covered and I'd rather wait a year than take any risks, beyond it just slowly going up unconsciously. I just think suddenly trying to change your voice without incremental steps might be unsafe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

relieved sounds ahh, it's not just me then! I was worried it's actually fine and I just hate the sound of my own voice. Thanks for the playlist, I haven't seen that series before. I use this voice all the time anyway, so it's not uncomfortable.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Well a lot of trans people have a bit of an unnatural quality to their voice, but it isn't really a problem I'd say. But with yours it honestly is quite strong and so I'd say focus on recognizing what it is and then seeing if you can practice getting that out. Iirc she covers that in one of the first videos. There's various things you can do wrong, like falsetto, cartoon etc

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks, it's a work in progress! Better than it was six months ago, at least 😀

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

You're much further than I am :)