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With the recent happenings in the United States, the dangers of the privately owned Internet is more apparent than ever, and frankly, it's scary. And so I'd like to make a simple request to anyone who is reading this; Please use the Fediverse, just a little more.

I personally hate it when I'm stuck having to visit say, YouTube or Reddit to get information, or to entertain myself in quiet moments, and if you're reading this, the likely chance is you're the same.

All I want to ask of you is to just comment a few more times, press send on that post that you felt wasn't of enough substance to be worth anyone's time. We have such a small community compared to everywhere else, but what we do have in common is that, in the grand scheme of things, we are the early adopters. And if we take that to heart and make this space a little bigger, maybe it will be just big enough we won't have to visit walled gardens so often.

Thank you :)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I'm a fediverse supporter (obviously, that's why I'm here), however what you're looking for requires a critical mass of users that the fediverse (at least the Lemmy side of it) will never achieve as long as two very critical problems persist:

  1. sign up is confusing. People are used to clicking "create an account," inputting a user name, password, and maybe an email, and then BAM they're a user. I realize the whole instance thing is the entire point, but no one wants nor expects to have to do significant research and make a decision about how they want to interact with a social media site before they've even started using it.

  2. the site (or at least lemmy.world) is sooo slooow. Basic functions like loading images take me back to the dial-up era of "click the image then do something else while it loads," which is downright ridiculous in the 2020s. Again I've stuck with it because I want to support the fediverse, but 99% of users won't.

And no, these aren't "features not bugs" unless you want to keep the site small and homogenous.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago

Blaze has put in a ton of work simplifying the former, and while the latter isn't strictly only related to Lemmy.world, many other servers are much faster.

e.g. click on https://discuss.online/, see how it shows All (rather than Local) by default (that's an issue with some), and Active. Click posts, see how fast images load, read the pinned posts and imagine how quickly the admin responds.

THEN if someone likes it, join. Many Redditors are in the USA, where discuss.online is also, so it's a great match.

There are other instances, but showcasing that one is a great way to help guide people to what Lemmy is all about.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

possibly the biggest eye opener has been seeing how much the average person knows about computers, it's seriously hard to comprehend that divide (obligatory xkcd; https://xkcd.com/2501/), I think the best we can do is build a community, and give the loved ones in our lives an onboarding experience where we can. learning anything new is intimidating, but through exposure, it can be done, we've just gotta make it worth it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

I honestly don't understand point 1. no matter how much people say it.

Maybe I'm naive because it wasn't confusing to me personally, but it is only one extra step to create an account. When people explain the Fediverse to new people they compare it to e-mail anyway, which basically has the exact same sign-up structure. The only difference to me is the way it is advertised. Nobody in general says "you need to join e-mail", it's usually "join GMail" or "join Yahoo". I don't know how it would be solved without detracting from the "choose the instance that is right for you" experience though, since the instances with the most support and funding will obviously hold the most influence (as we currently see with lemmy.world and lemmy.ml, not to mention pixelfed.social).

IDK maybe I'm wrong, lmk, but I don't think choosing an instance is all the friction it's said to be.

The big instances are definitely slower though.

[–] JackbyDev 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I think you're drastically underestimating how even small steps like that can tune a ton of people out. If they're only sort of on the fence about it it might be enough to make it not worth it. Or maybe they'll think they'll check later but never get around to it.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

Me too. I don't get how people can't get past the choosing a server and I'm not a techie. Like have you ever played a video game and had to join a server? It's not that complicated! Lol. People are such lame giver uppers.

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[–] JackbyDev 3 points 20 hours ago

but no one wants nor expects to have to do significant research and make a decision about how they want to interact with a social media site before they've even started using it.

Then just directly recommend specific, general purpose instances to people.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (9 children)

All I want to ask of you is to just comment a few more times, press send on that post that you felt wasn’t of enough substance to be worth anyone’s time.

God damn! I'm trying my hardest here!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

try harder! fool!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You're gonna regret asking me to post more but... your wish is my command! 🪄

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

any youtube alternatives in the fediverse? I know about peertube.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

I'm afraid YouTube is a different beast entirely when it comes to replacing it, so I'm going to have to branch out on what 'alternative' means.

loops.video is a tiktok-esque shortform video service on the fediverse owncast.online is a federated livestreaming platform, like twitch funkwhale.audio is the fediverse's answer to music streaming. I've also heard good things about radiofreefedi.net and of course you've already heard of peertube.tv

but when it comes to YouTube, absolutely nothing holds a real candle to the variety anf quality of it's content, so you might want to look into alternatives such as Dropout.tv, Nebula, Odyssee (I have heard very bad things about Odyssee, but including for variety), or frontends like Invidious, Freetube, and Newpipe.

Hope this helps :)

PS: I have a post asking for peertube video reccomendations, which might have a comment or two with something of interest.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago

I just deleted most of my other social media apps and am trying to lean into the fediverse and nostr as much as I can.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I already use fediverse an unhealthy amount, if I do more I might die.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

you aren't social mediaing right unless it makes you bleed

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe in the coming 4 years people will finally understand why handing over everything to corps isn't great. Whether they'll do anything with that understanding is questionable though. The amount of "but it's so easy" and "I'm just one person" doomerism is fantastic.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 day ago (26 children)

I think 90% of my posts are deleted before sending because I just know that someone somewhere will find a way to be mad about it

But OK - here is a post that I would usually have deleted :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

I have never felt more heard - I am so glad that you did not delete this.:-)

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (4 children)

As Someone Somewhere, I urge you to post more.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago

A genuine username checks out moment - excellent

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Since all this shit started happening I've deleted all the social media apps on my phone and I've started using lemmy more. Gonna switch my YouTube shit over to peertube when I can.

Intending to actually delete my accounts in the coming weeks too. Bye bye, 13 year old reddit account. Nobody gonna miss ya.

Tbf I have been using Nebula a lot since I signed up pretty cheaply and I enjoy it. It's owned by the creators. Found it through Jacob Geller.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

I've heard good things about Nebula, and I'm hoping to get an account when I've saved enough

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