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Preferably into the EU. I speak some Spanish and I'm set to graduate with an Associates this semester. Hoping to get CompTIA certs sometime soonish and would like to continue schooling to get a bachelor's in Compsci. Most notable work experience is 2 years in an office setting making collection calls and processing payments. What resources are available to me? Who or what agency/department can I contact to get more information? What's the pipeline look like?

I know I could look most of this up, but there's a lot of information out there and some(a lot) of it I find somewhat confusing. Plus, I don't really even know where to start.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

EU is not a single country, as the US. Each country has its own rules and regulations.

Some countries, as mentioned, offer a digital nomad visa (Croatia is one of them) others do not.

There's also something called the Shengen area, which allows for free movement between countries. Not all EU counties participate (yet) and even some non-EU countries are part of it. This allows you to have a citizenship in one country and live / work in another.

As for the language, your mileage can vary. Most countries will require at least a basic language knowlege to pass the citizenship test. For day-to-day communication, work and study, you can find options where English would be sufficient. Lots of universities offer English-language programs and lost of companies are international with English being the primary language. Most Europeans speak English quite well.

As others have mentioned, a student visa for one of these would be your best bet. Explore which country would make most sense based on your needs.

If student visa is not an option, then getting a job (in the target country) first would be a way in. Get a working visa and start applying for citizenship.

You should also understand that literary everybody in Europe (not just EU) has an ID and is registered as a citizen. It's therefore practically impossible to be undocumented and still get salary, open a bank account or visit a doctor.

TL;DR: Explore each country individually. "Moving to EU" makes as much sense as saying "Moving to Asia".

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

Get a working visa in AU's or Canada, stretch it out and in the 5th year when the concentration camps and gas chambers are in full swing, there should be a refugee visa available.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mexico actually is a great country to live. Cheap living expenses, and the food is just ridonculously good. There are always good jobs available for educated people with good English

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Out of curiosity, what is the climate/temperature like there, in the big cities? I imagine it being very warm

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Depends in where you are. Mexico is (afaik, I might be wrong) the only country that has every possible climat in the world within its borders.

You can have sweaty hot, but tolerable, in Vallarta, you can have dry hot but very doable.innthe Guanajuato region, you can have a milder climate in Mexico City

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Biggest swamp cooler in the world just off the west coast. The closer you get to the Pacific, the more moderate the temperature is. It's rather cool in Tijuana, currently. (50° F/ 10.5° C)

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Semi serious. Who said it is gay to marry your homies?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Student exchange programs - > job - > permanent residence is one of the easiest ways to migrate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

This is what I would suggest.

Looking for grants and bursaries for the effort is something that should always happen. You may get lucky, or not, either way it will probably cost less than the same from an American university.

I mean, I haven't done this, but it seems logical since OP is looking to further their education.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Use European Grants for foreign Students and be debt free when you finish. ..... Even that should set you in front of your peers in the materialistic USA. ( No fees for studying and cost of living in less fancy european cities is really low for students).

[–] [email protected] 104 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Step 1, figure out if any of your parents, grandparents, or in some cases great grandparents came from somewhere else. Many countries allow near descendents to get citizenship.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 3 days ago (5 children)

and that's the true story of how my partner and i figured out that the only non US place that will take us is ruzzia

[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And that's the true story of how I learned all my Polish ancestors came over before modern Poland was a thing, and thus didn't have Polish citizenship to pass on.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago (3 children)

broooo! same! the weird part is that the part of so called russian poland my family was from when they evacuated Europe is in Western Ukraine now, so i guess the conclusion is everything's made up and nationalities don't matter

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Mine did, too. I received Polish citizenship this year. If your family came from what is today Poland and you can prove that, you’re potentially eligible. If not, and they came from the territory that is today Hungary, Romania, etc - then check with those countries instead as similar laws apply.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Step 1, figure out if any of your parents, grandparents...came from somewhere else.

I'm related to 7 different passengers of the Mayflower!

...yup I'm not moving countries the easy way

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

No one mentioned DAFT (Dutch American Friendship Treaty) yet. It's the lowest barrier of entry to EU for English speaking US citizens with no heritage path. It's just money and grit. Other paths require some amount of chance, be it luck in finding employment willing to sponsor, or acceptance into some student program and hoping you can manage to find employment sponsorship before you graduate. DAFT is strictly having a minimum amount of money (4500 Euro), and then being a successful enough entrepreneur to sustain a life anywhere in The Netherlands.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You think being an entrepreneur is more of a sure thing than finding an employer?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Being an entrepreneur in a new country with a different culture and set of laws

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

80% of startups fail as a benchmark. It's pretty tricky to create a company.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

*successfull company, incorporating is dead simple.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Step 1: Marry a EU Citizen

Step 2: ???

Step 3: Enjoy your life

(remember, same-sex marriage is legal in the EU so you got plenty of options, just saying 😉)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Same sex marriage is legal in the EU isnt true.

Basically nothing is "in the EU" There are some general laws that each country applies on their own (often treating them as suggestions and get fined if they dont respect them)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

It's legal in a lot of the EU though, especially if you stay out of eastern Europe

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

You still have to learn the language and take citizenship tests to become a citizen in many European countries

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Associates degrees are non-existent and not recognized in the EU, and most if not all countries require you to be a graduate to be eligible for hire, which would make a student visa the easiest route.

Luckily many countries offer tuition completely for free; though bachelor degrees are often taught in the native language. If your Spanish is solid, you could of course go to Spain, else with English you'd be somewhat restricted to Ireland and Malta (English is the second official language, but the primary for tuition).

Other than that, some universities have English taught bachelor degrees, so you'd have to research them individually. Finland is very English- and Tech-friendly, for starters.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I don't think they offer free tuition to non-EU citizens

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Look up digital nomad visas. Get remote work here, then apply to relocate to EU country. Good luck with the timezone difference, tho.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Do you have ancestry from a country that makes immigration easier if you can prove it?

[–] AnAmericanPotato 27 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Are you able to spend a lot of money on it? Last I checked, there were a few places in the EU that had a citizenship track if you purchased substantial property. So if you're in position to buy a nice house, that's an option. I think Portugal is the most approachable cost-wise. But it's been a while since I looked at this so I'm sure things have changed.

Several countries will allow extended student visas, even if you only speak English. I think Sweden allows this.

Then of course there's the easy way: marry a Canadian.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You saying we're easy? I mean... we are but you're not supposed to just say it

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sorry

Did I pass the immigration test?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Getting a student visa is easy and an excellent way to both get valid credentials and a feel for the local culture.

As to where you should go depends on what you're interested in, you'll almost certainly be able to make a home wherever, so pick something that seems interesting and go (you can always use your mandated vacation days to explore the rest of EU).

For language, in almost all the major cities people will be able to speak English, although typically you'll want to learn the local language sooner rather than later for social reasons.

If you know Spanish go Barcelona, beautiful city, vibrant in both culture and industry, and with values not too shockingly different to the US. For more info, either visit the Spanish consulate nearest you or look up their online presence.

If you want to keep to English, consider Ireland, they've also had a booming IT industry for all the giants needing a foot in the EU.

Mostly you can't go wrong anywhere in the EU. Biggest culture shock would probably be the Nordics or Slavic countries, but not necessarily in a bad way.

All of them have tons of info about student visas at each university, the degrees are standardised throughout the EU and most universities are good, and typically outstanding in a couple areas.
For more info you just contact their international coordinator, or their closest consulate.

Most countries also have dedicated Web pages that outline the process, steps, and how you move toward permanent residence and citizenship if you'd want that.

Moving is typically the hard part, but if you start as a student, you'll have a lot prepared for you (student accommodations, stipends, social activities, part-time job offers, recruitment fairs, incubators, etc.)

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Your best bet is through a company. If you have a reasonable job opportunity, familiarise yourself with the work visa and residency procedures. Your future employer will likely help you in the process.

However, the economy currently is tough also in the EU, so you’ll need to find a niche.

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