Of course. If you promise to do something, but don't intend to follow through, did you still make that promise? Yes you did. If that promise was legally binding (as in an oath of office or oath before a court) you can of course be held accountable for that oath whether you "believe" in the thing or not. Can you imagine what a mess it would be if you could just say "well I don't believe in the Bible, so I can lie in front of a judge all I want since they made me swear on a Bible"?
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No, baby jesus will come down and bitch slap you. Better not press your luck.
As others have said: Yes, it does count. You're still making a formal, legally-binding pledge, in front of witnesses, to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
By the way, you don't actually need to swear at all. If you're an atheist, you can instead make a solemn affirmation, which is the same thing but without invoking a deity.
Historian Brett Devereaux goes into the finer details of oaths here. The idea of invoking the names of deities when one makes a promise is as old as religion. The idea is that doing so calls the attention of that deity, who then acts as a witness and enforcer of the promise (so make sure it's carefully worded!) Thus, in ye olden dayes, if you swear by God to tell the truth and then tell a lie, the punishment is damnation in Hell for breaking a promise that God formally witnessed. Touching a Bible (or a relic or religious artifact) makes the oath more potent.
lemmy broke the wikipedia link :(
Well in court you're actually swearing to tell the truth against a penalty of purgery. They used to make you put your hand on a bible, but they don't do that anymore. Now it's considered religious bigotry.
I've never seen anyone take on oath on the bible in making a promise to another person. Maybe that was a common thing to do ages ago, but I've not seen it my life.
If someone ever asked me to do that I'd be weirded out by it and probably refuse. If someone did manage to make me, it wouldn't carry any more or less weight than my word normally does. A promise is a promise.
Oaths are only as serious as you take them.
Does it count to who? Saying its ok to lie because your don't believe in a book is as valid as saying it's ok because your crossed your fingers.
Legal yes, ethically maybe not.
The whole point of swearing on the bible was to get God to be involved in enforcing the oath. So your disbelief may negate this aspect. On the gripping hand, you also swear in front of a government representative to get the gubmint involved in enforcing the oath. And if it is in their interest to enforce the oath; they will. With guns if necessary.
"gubmint" lol
yeah, because the invisible sky father will smite you irregardless of your beliefs