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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (4 children)

When did ivermectin become the cure all? COVID? Because this is beyond stupid.

I know it started with COVID, but to become a wonder drug...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

In the beginning of Covid, a doctor in very rural India started treating Covid patients with ivermectin and they got better. So the doctor wrote a paper about it, and this paper was touted as proof that ivermectin was the cure for Covid, and nowadays everything.

Because schools don't stress science literacy, what people didn't notice in the paper was that WHY ivermectin helped these patients with their Covid infections is because they ALSO had multiple parasites because they were living in a very rural area and rarely sought medical help, and therefore their immune system was already overburdened dealing with the parasites. By treating the parasites with ivermectin, their immune systems were able to focus on Covid and actually fight through it. This was all explained in the paper, people just didn't read past the title, clearly.

Ivermectin is prescribed for humans - specifically in the cases of parasites. We need to get back to teaching science literacy and critical thinking in schools.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Thanks for the background - that’s fascinating. I never knew there was a sliver of reality behind the craziness

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I know it started with COVID, but to become a wonder drug…

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3043740/

It garners it's "wonder drug" status long before COVID. Just not for any reason related to COVID. Nor Cancer...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Fair enough. And thank you for the article, it was informative!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Scam artists can sell it without a prescription as long as they're calling it an animal product. It's sold off the counter at any feed store. This is always the scam with these claims it's ''it cures cancer THEY just don't want you to know about it!'' Then they sell you a huge amount of it at a huge markup. This is everything from Monavie (an aqci berry juice), vitamin Mega doses, some completely insignificant ''supplements'' (I knew a guy selling ox bile capsules with almost no oil or extracts mixed in), then you have all manner of crystals, jade eggs, food processing leftovers like apricot pits, inert nonsense. And I'm not even really mad about it because it mostly ripps off rich idiots like Mel and Joe. These idiots take the same meds from their doctor as everyone else, then ALSO take the snake oil and are convinced the snake oil worked. Joe took a vit C mega dose when he was also taking meds from his doctor for Covid, and he's SURE the Vit C did something. It's like how if you have really worn out tires on a car that when you get new tires the mileage gets noticeably better, but then you think ''tire store change tire = 20% lower mph'' so you take your car back the next day and ask them to change the tires 4 more times because you think it will make your car have -100% gas consuption. All these meds CAN improve your immune system response by removing parasites if you have them, eliminate vit deficiencys if you have them, or remove other micro nutrient deficiencies, all work IF you have the issue to begin with, and studies show the improvement, but taking 1000x the dose of Vit C is just making your pee insanely vit rich, once the deficiency is resolved your body dumps the excess.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

But they'll kick and scream and run away from the actual medical miracle with a medically tested and proven vaccine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

let's hope everyone who still listens to Joe Bogan follows Mel G's advice when they get cancer.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Sorry to the people dealing with the fires in LA area but I have to admit that I laughed hard when I heard Mel Gibson's house burnt down during this interview. Absolutely hilarious to me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I dunno how the hell I could tell from back in the day, watching movies he was in, that I couldn't trust him. Just something about the way he acts. I can't put my finger on it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

There were hints. Dude played Mad Max and the loose-cannon crazy cop in Lethal Weapon. Is it acting or maybe he was born with it?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Methylene Blue is also fish medicine. It treats ich.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

Yes and it treats fungal infections in tree frogs. I'm not trying to say that these medicines work the way that Gibson is saying they do, but the whole "horse dewormer" talking point is dishonest as it makes it out like these medicines have only a single use. I doubt ivermectin treats covid or whatever. But anytime someone just throws out these minimizing points as if it's impossible to use things in more than one way only makes me doubt the validity of their claims.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yes but californians first

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I thought the San Andreas fault would get em, but I was wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

That's 2026

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