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A couple of days ago i noticed something off with blahaj.zone. I couldn't see images posted by users on blahaj, so i thought it was a problem on their side.

Well guess fucking what? After 3 days, it was STILL broken, so i opened it and...

Blocked. They fucking blocked blahaj.zone. Actually beyond parodyπŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ Why? What was the point? there's trans content literally everywhere on lemmy. what's next, block them all? So now if i want to see a post by a user on blahaj, i have to turn on my VPN (protonvpn.com is also blocked in saudi, jfc) just to see it. Fuck this place. πŸ™„

I swear a couple of days ago it worked. This is a mild annoyance (hence the community) but still.

It's so over guys, MBS said no more 196 πŸ˜”

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Saudi would take a hacksaw to them if they could

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

MBS's wet dream every night.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Because trans content is against god. Or something like that.

What’s 196?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

Except in iran, they love 'em!

As for 196, [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Please don't use so many swear words, as they might execute you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

I'm not sure if this is a joke or not, but don't worry, there's no law against it, and it's normal.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Blocked. They fucking geoblocked blahaj.zone.

Geoblocked for whom?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Geo blocking is the wrong term to use. It implies the platform blocked a country.

This is a country blocking a platform.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

Ah, OK. That makes more sense. Especially as it seems to be happening in Saudi Arabia.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

Oops, i thought they were the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago

Saudi arabians.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

I blocked blahaj.zone voluntarily. Same as the tankie-zone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

There is a difference between state censorship and preference. One is good, the other is a symptom of corruption.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

They fucking geoblocked blahaj.zone.

I suppose THEY is Saudi Arabia.
How can you be surprised about that? Saudi Arabia is a Sharia law country. An absolute shit stain of a country in many more ways than this.
You can get a death penalty for posting something against Sharia Law on any site. Actively using Lemmy could be enough to see you in jail.

MBS said no more 196

???

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Saudi Arabia is shit, but anyone who uses the term Sharia law is a dolt.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Why? it's an actual term. شريعة

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Law law? That's what it means.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

Law is Ω‚Ψ§Ω†ΩˆΩ†. Sharia is شريعة. One is just law, the other is religious law.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Thanks for the clarification. ✌️ I'm the dolt.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The last line was a joke. Anyways yes it is about Saudi Arabia, and I'm no stranger to how shitty they are. I'm surprised that such a niche forum could be targeted, websites about trans stuff get banned all the time.

I knew this happen eventually, I just didn't know when.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I’m surprised that such a niche forum could be targeted,

If you can find it, authorities can too. Sounds like you are far from careful enough, considering where you are.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

It sucks, but it's also one positive thing about the Fediverse - if Lemmy was a central platform, it would be completely gone for you now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I'm a way that's a downside too, it's now easier for shit regimes to block content they disagree with, without blocking the larger services. Less people will be disrupted by it, so less people will care. See: blocking Facebook,YouTube or WhatsApp vs. blocking a single activist site.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Thank god for VPNs though.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, thank god. I'm more baffled on why fucking saudi arabia would care about a tiny trans-ran instance on a niche software. must've been a slow day there, i guess.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You are very naive, and should probably be a lot more careful when in Saudi Arabia.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

That's the thing, I thought Lemmy was too niche to be known about by the gov. I was wrong. I should cool it on the anti saud, pro republic stuff, this can get me in serious trouble.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Ye, this shit is no joke if you're actually inside the Kingdom! Exercise tight OpSec please!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I ought to. Do you know any general tips, or places for me to ask about making my social media presence as secure as possible?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Do a search on yourself - try to find out your real identity based on information online, and do it as thoroughly as if you were searching for your worst enemy.

If you can find who you are yourself, chances are they will.

Make sure you don't have anything "hairy" tied to an email with an email address you'd use for anything uncompromising. E.g. keep the email you use to login on Lemmy and the email you use to login on netflix separate.

Use 2 factor authentication and a password manager. Treat your password leaks seriously and consider any leaked accounts burnt - assume the details you had in there are now known.

Avoid using your real name on anything you can.

Best wishes. Take care my friend!

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

https://libcom.org/article/infosec-101-preventing-doxxing

Other than that, I would suggest always using proxies or VPNs when accessing fediverse services from your location.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

Good info, thank you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago

Be more careful, and best of luck to you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

youre kidding right. one of the most oppressive shitty, religion-based garbage of a country that subjugates 50% of its population and you wonder why its acting shitty?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm more suprised at the fact that they blocked such a small website, but i guess they really leave nothing left behind. I gotta be more careful on lemmy if that's the case.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

its what happens when horrible people have money to burn

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Only a small percentage of saudi arabia live luxuriously, guess who's most of them? (Hint: they're a royal family) meanwhile, i've seen homeless people, starved to the bone (literally), without a single piece of clothing, sitting in the sweltering heat.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago

yep. evil people with way too much money

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You should still be able to see the blΓ₯haj content on your Lemmy instance. If not it's time to switch instances.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I know, but now i'd have to turn on a vpn to understand the post and see the image. I still think it's better than completely being isolated from them, but it's still a nuisance :/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You can sign up on a Lemmy instance that runs the full image proxy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago

Is there some list where you can see which instances have this feature?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

Ah, damn. Didn't think of the images.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

So now if i want to see a post by a user on blahaj, i have to turn on my VPN just to see it. Fuck this place. πŸ™„

One of the first conversations I was on when I joined was one between Ada, the lemmy.blahaj.zone admin, and some guy in a Middle Eastern country. Apparently his country had blocked lemmy.blahaj.zone at the national network level.

The Threadiverse is federated, so one could view posts from lemmy.blahaj.zone elsewhere, but not images, which did not propagate.

I thought that at some point, lemmy servers had started also storing images posted on other lemmy servers, but upon checking, it looks like they have not. I did run into one -- no longer up -- that had, according to the description, had apparently been modified to do this, probably to afford its users more privacy. In theory, if you could find one that did so, you could just rely on propagation through the network.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

https://join-lemmy.org/news/2024-06-07_-_Lemmy_Release_v0.19.4_-_Image_Proxying_and_Federation_improvements

Image proxy is what I suspect you mean. The problem with that from an instance admin is that on the network level it would them show their instance accessing whatever content their users request which then puts the owner at risk, so I believe most never enabled it. If an instance owner set up an instance with a particularly strong opsec game though where their outbound connections where routed over a VPN or TOR though that could be useful to censored countries. Might make for an interesting project...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

That's not really the problem. The main issue until now is that when you try to proxy all images, what ends up happening is that a lot of popular image hosters start rate limiting your server's IP, so your users end up just seeing a lot of broken images, and they think you misconfigured your instance. @[email protected] had to deal with this iirc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Hmm.

IPv6 addresses are a far less-constrained resource than IPv4 addresses.

I wonder if it might be possible to do the requests over IPv6, using a range of addresses, assuming that the image hosting services in question only care about rate of requests from a single address.

EDIT: Also, for OP's case, all he cares about is propagation of images hosted on other lemmy instances, not image hosting services. Presumably those instances don't care about other instances serving their pictrs images. I wonder if it'd be possible to have an option to only proxy for pictrs-served images?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

That too I suppose. I seem to recall the feature coming out not too long after all the CSAM issues, so liability for that always stuck in my mind.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

If i remember correctly after the downfall of reddit and the mass migration to Lemmy happened a big issue was CSAM spreading across the Lemmy servers. Wouldn't surprise me that that is the cause that images are no liner stored across servers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

That's good to know, thank you. Unfortunately alot of the communities i spend time in have a lot of blahaj users, so i don't have context of the post sometimes. Better than nothing, though.

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