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[–] [email protected] 1 points 44 minutes ago

Can we get rid of twitter already?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

Just do it. Stop yapping, start doing. The hemming and hawing and trying to be proper about this shit is infuriating. They don’t play by the rules so, fuck it - pull a Brazil and yank the rug out. It worked.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

If only they wanted to do it as bad as they want to pass chat control. The western organizations are such a fucking joke.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The government is allowed to mess with cokes recipe because we don't want it to be too bad for people's health. I don't see why we shouldn't mess with algorithms to protect our personal and national health

[–] [email protected] 1 points 43 minutes ago

We do, but it's a lot more difficult to enforce. We can't just grab a tweet, open the bottle and check how much sugar is in there

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Better shut off the complete platform. And issue an international arrest warrant for foreign poitical influence / election interference.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Please, do it.

[–] [email protected] 122 points 2 days ago (23 children)

just grow a pair and ban twitter, spacex, starlink, and tesla from operating in europe already.

there's no good reason to let them operate.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They’re mostly all national security threats, especially with Elon and Putin having a special relationship.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I mean AfD is also pro-russia AND have neo-nazi's in its ranks.

They are at 20% in polls just before the german election.

I don't think many people have as many issues as they should have with russia or they just don't care.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

this could create e-waste if managed improperly

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[–] [email protected] 158 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Shutting Off X's Algorithm

Hey EU, that's not how any of this works. First of all, you do not have any control over that -- even if you demand it be done, there's no way to verify compliance. Second, there's always an "algorithm." There can't not be an "algorithm;" that would mean it would display nothing at all. Even the choice to just display tweets chronologically is still a choice, and implemented in the form of an "algorithm."

What you do have the power to do -- and what you should do -- is simply just straight-up block X entirely.

[–] [email protected] 126 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Worked brilliantly for the Brazilian government. Lulu pulled the plug for... a week? BlueSky suddenly got incredibly popular. Musk panicked and folded on every demand. And the amount of pro-Bolsonaro/coup-posting on Twitter sank like a brick.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Realistically I think that is why banning him even as a brief show of force will be very effective. He understands pain, it’s the universal language.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Literally the only rule Musk follows is the rule of power. Legal shit means nothing, might is right. So yeah, govs should deal with him the same way before it's too late.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh they can turn off musk's algorithm quite easily: just ban the whole fucking site.

He's folded like origami on this already, and he'll do it again.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

he folded to brazilian courts last year. but now, with trump in power, he may have more means to pressure back.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If WWIII broke out over the EU blocking Twitter and the US lost would Musk take a cyanide pill?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I wouldn’t call reverse chronological order with blocks accounted for an algorithm.

Twitter didn’t always have an algorithm.

Mastodon does not have an algorithm. Or am I not being inclusive enough in my definition?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

to not piss off computer scientists and mathematicians with their dear word "algorithm", you may want to narrow it down with the expression recommendation algorithms.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

3 spaces is the ideal indentation width.

There, that should keep them busy for a couple hours.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Even trivial sorting algorithms are still called algorithms.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

An important thing to consider: Mastodon doesn't have an "algorithm" for presenting posts in your subscription feed.

That doesn't mean it "does not have an algorithm" entirely, though. There's a couple of non-trivial ones being used to recommend friends and calculate the trending posts and tags that show up on the front page, and they do actually consider likes/shares as part of scoring.

https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/blob/54e20301462b381f27c50ed305abeedde1ace878/app/models/trends/statuses.rb#L98

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let me paraphrase a Hungarian saying in English, related to doing the bare minimum:

Thank you for going to the toilet and not taking a shit right where you were!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Lets use their playbook: The only way to protect the electoion in less than 2 months, is to block Twitter and Facebook in germany completely.

Let them go to the courts, I'm sure we can find a lawyer or 2 skilled enough to draw out the process for 6-8 weeks. After that, whatever, unblock them, pay some "sorry we were wrong" money.

Then we have 4 years to solve the problem in a more permanent way.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Democracies have to start making laws that stop assholes like Musk from interfering in their domestic politics - including and up to imposing heavy fines, service shutdown and personal criminal liability. If a person is not a national and domiciled in that country they should have no right to influence that election through campaign contributions or any other assistance.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Musk and russia. Russia has been a far greater problem and is also behind many stupid musk takes.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

Kill X already

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago (14 children)

Fractured internet here we come

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

I know this is unpopular and goes against the ideals of the early internet, but the open internet (especially social networks) is hugely damaging at the moment.

This isn't just "people having different opinions", but rather full-scale cyber warfare that's currently happening. It's also only going to get worse...

Propaganda works, and it works quite well. Nobody is fully immune.

So unless you feel like having Musk/Russia/China dictate your life (through forcing their shit agenda), banning their attack vectors is really the only play.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

It's already here

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