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[–] [email protected] 238 points 1 week ago (7 children)

God our government is so fucking useless for anything that might actually help people.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

It's by design: the rich know how easily "representatives" can be bought.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It's currently not fill with people who want to help "prople". It currently is setup to help corporate America only at this point. At the expense of your rights.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

this is a direct consequence of the Supreme Court overturning the Chevron deference back in June. the appeals court has to apply the law. so you know who to blame.

expect more cases like this in coming years...

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

God our government is so fucking useless for anything that might actually help people.

More specifically: gop.gov

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[–] [email protected] 150 points 1 week ago (5 children)

If the FCC can't regulate anything I guess I'll just run a high power jammer and block all cell signal in the area.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wait! You will get in trouble for that. Instead you need to have an LLC that does that for Profit somehow. Then all is forgiven!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a privacy subscription service.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Privacy? You can't have privacy.

It's to block access to CSAM. Shame it blocks everything else.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ah but technically it's still illegal to disrupt emergency services and also leaves you liable to lawsuits.

But yeah, the FCC in particular can't stop you from doing that.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ahh, but you can subscribe to my private emergency services on my own frequencies which aren't blocked, then nobody can block mine because they are the only available emergency service frequency.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Put hundreds of them in a pretty boxes, form an LLC, get a few VCs to sign on, flip the switch, then charge a monthly fee to "open previously-inacessible service areas to cellular customers" and you'll have a successful startup!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Hold on, GumpyDuckling... checks clipboard tsk tsk, I see here you're not wealthy enough to effectively lobby to get us in trouble; I'm afraid that'll be a $10,000 fine.

[–] [email protected] 138 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Their excuse is that telecom services aren’t actually providing telecom services, but information services.

If that doesn’t make sense to you, it’s because you aren’t brain-damaged.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All laws protecting the people's interests are now banned. Don't like it? Well become a billionaire and maybe the supreme Court will care

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

otoh:

Mike Masnick @mmasnick.bsky.social‬

I mean, this is a terrible (if unsurprising) decision, but I'm left wondering how Brendan Carr is going to still try to claim regulatory authority over social media companies...

There is no possible consistency between "ISPs can throttle and block, but edge services cannot..." ‪nilay patel‬ ‪@reckless.bsky.social‬

2h

Sixth Circuit decision striking down net neutrality doesn’t even remotely pass the sniff test lol www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf...

January 2, 2025 at 3:11 PM

https://bsky.app/profile/mmasnick.bsky.social/post/3lerv476tes22

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Can you please explain what this means? I'm not sure I understand correctly.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Trump wants to weaponise the FCC to go against social media companies who "ban free speech" or whatever, just like Elon complained about before buying Twitter, and like all other right wingers are so mad about. But if the FCC doesn't have any authority to regulate ISPs, why should it have authority to regulate social media companies. Not that the courts seem to care about precedent anymore, but that's the silver lining they are looking for.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Thank you for the explanation, that makes sense

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It means that folks are still expecting logic and consistency out of US lawmakers.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They're going to use this for censorship.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But they'll call it freedom of speech. Speech someone/corp paid for of course, but Citizens United...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Corporations are just sovereign citizens.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Ministry of truth and all that.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Torproject.org. There's absolutely no way to censor the entire internet, short of entirely disconnecting the internet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

They're trying to ban tiktok. I've never used it but it's just because it's Chinese, social media from any other company based in any other country is just as fucked and unhealthy and unregulated in the US, but they are going to ban it specifically for its country of origin. China pills a lot of weight and the company tiktok is powerful and fighting it in court and all but it seems pretty obvious it'll go through even under current admin watch--let alone when a direct competitor and owner of Xitter owns the White House.

While yes, you're logistically correct it would be very difficult to shut down the whole Internet, that's not the goal, the goal is to massively control it and enshittify it beyond your worst dreams.

Look to China and Russia for "internet"TM

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fair point. But I just believe it goes to show that more websites need to be available on the darknet. Not because it's a scary or bad place to be, but because it can't be censored. Not nearly as easily, anyway. Top level domains can very easily be seized by the domain registrar or ICANN, etc. But since onion domains use keys, it's impossible to seize them without seizing the server they run on.

The vast majority of people are woefully ill-prepared for an adversarial internet.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago (14 children)

comes a time when blue states just need to draw the line and flat out refuse to follow federal laws and judges until federal judges stop being corrupt.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They do it for marijuana laws but won’t treat anything else like that. I don’t understand.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago

Money.

Lots of potential tax revenue with cannabis.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

long-winded sigh

I really ought to set up that community meshnet I keep thinking about setting up...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really ought to set up that community meshnet I keep thinking about setting up...

Oh hey, I keep thinking about doing this to and hosting a website like the old days lol, but when I search about it the biggest thing that comes up is like LoRa, but ig it's too slow for hosting internet-like services

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Meshtastic is 80% geeky fun hobby, 20% preparedness, and 0% ready to facilitate anything more than simple text messages. Still neat, though.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

This is really just a game of tech billionaires vs telecom/media billionaries

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Like most large changes, it requires an act of Congress. Doing these via the executive leads to weak outcomes like this.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The thing is Congress doesn't have time to deal with technical details. That's why they passed a law authorizing the FCC to make exactly this kind of regulation. The conservative courts throwing everything they don't like under the Major Questions Doctrine is just a way to make sure regulation never happens and Corporations are free to exploit people however they want. The problem here isn't the FCC, it's bad faith judges with the power to stop the entire government.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (19 children)

This is ridiculous how difficult it is to get this law through. Clearly it must be something good. I am 100% behind it.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is this really shocking with the incoming sadministration?

That's not a typo.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In its opinion, a three-judge panel pointed to a Supreme Court decision in June, known as Loper Bright, that overturned a 1984 legal precedent that gave deference to government agencies on regulations.

“Applying Loper Bright means we can end the F.C.C.’s vacillations,” the court ruled.

"Nyyeaahh nyyeaah nyyeaaaahh ppffthhhhthhth!!" they said.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So now all regulatory policy has to through the fucking gauntlet of legislative process where the wealthy will just veto everything that doesn't benefit them...this nation is captured beyond belief.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

tbf it's not hard to convince hayseed chucklefuck trumplings that regulations which exist to protect them are a bad thing because they cost money. we had condo buildings collapsing and people dying WITH regulations.

when bridges start collapsing left and right, they'll blame drag queens and the maga trumpistan patriots will lap it up like hogs at the trough

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was surprised that it wasn't the fifth circuit, then my shock faded: the sixth administers Ohio, Kentucky and Tennessee, as well as Michigan.

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