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[–] anzo 1 points 1 day ago

Why not vouch for autonomy, independence and power to the people? :)

[–] [email protected] 159 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)
  1. I'm sure I remember seeing NCD suggest this as the ultimate funny thing for China, a year ago. Glad to see Chinese social media likes our ideas.
  2. I hope it spreads to the point where tankies bend over backwards to defend this as not expansions at all, while somehow being on the side of both russia and China.
[–] [email protected] 73 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

😕🫸Expansion?

😏👉Reclamation!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Calling it now: Russia has Siberia for 400 years and did dick with it. China can use Siberian resources better than Russia.

It will always be about exploitation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

and space. russia has struggled to build any population of note out east, whereas China has people ready to go and a few decades of belt-and-road construction as prep.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

Considering point 2; Plesse keep it to a non credible niveau when posting in this community

[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What I'd love to see is all the nations who've had territory seized by Russia over the last century or so take it back, all at once.

Japan, Finland, Georgia and whoever I've missed all say "OK, Now!", and China gets in on the action just for fun.

Russia would be so incredibly pissed off.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes, this would be the ideal - then Poland and Lithuania can share Kaliningrad.

A free Crimea... Transnistria free of putin's bullshit...

Vladivostok returned to Yongmingcheng ...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Kaliningrad belongs to the Germans...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

At the moment it belongs to the russians but if Germany can make a good argument and pay off the neighbors, sure why not

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

The russians wiped it clean after the second world war, so there's not really anything left Form the times as Königsberg.

Seeing how much struggle it was to reintegrate the former GDR, I say 'No, thank you'

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Lol please do it, it'd be funny.

I mean, Russia is being worse to LGBT people compared to China's treatment of LGBT people, so I guess its a slight improvement?

But then, the firewall is much superior to russia's, so its gonna get harder to bypass censorship.

But good news, they gets free re-education to learn Social Harmony, and love peace, and love Xinnie the Pooh!

Also, no more pronoun issues. Pronouns are always 他/他 (pronounced tā), gendered pronouns are a thing of the past. (Chinese language does not really use gendered pronouns)

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

No idea why it boils down to treatment of LGBT, as if that is the only group that is consistently fucked with.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Welcome to Lemmy. We have only three topics - LGBT, Linux and USA politics ( lately rebranded to TrumpElon ).

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

God dammit, you got me.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

A big portion of population might go the way of Uyghurs which is not great.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

(Chinese language does not really use gendered pronouns)

他(male) and 她(female), no?

And also 它 for animal/object

Or at least that's what i learn when i'm in school, not sure if anything change.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You are correct. 他 for he, and 她 for she. However since they all sound the same, they're only distinguished in writing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not that they sound the same; they are the same and are just written differently. It was all 他 until in the 20th (I think) century they created 她 and 它 and made 他 for males only to make the language more European.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If you write 他 to refer to a woman on a test essay, you'd still get marked correct.

Writing 她 to refer to a man would be incorrect.

Basically

他 = He OR She

她 = She

它 = It (refer to objects and non-human animals)

他 is what gets used all the time to refer to both genders. 她 is rarely used, unless maybe in an English class to teach the difference between the English pronouns He and She.

Also, they are all pronounced the same: (tā)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They might not use genered pronouns, but they do a lot of referring to people as uncle/auntie/big sister/little brother and the like.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Finally, tankies can be on the decolonization side again

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

They can (but they wont)

[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I think that it is unlikely that China will do this.

I think that it is more-likely that Beijing will seek to dominate Russia, not to conquer it. China has a 2023 GDP of $17 trillion, Russia of $2 trillion. Russia has ensured that it has to rely on China for various things for at least some time. China doesn't need to invade to see increasing influence in Russia moving forward.

https://jamestown.org/program/russias-fiscal-dependence-on-china-grows/

  • As Western sanctions increasingly isolate Russia, it has become highly dependent on China for trade and economic support, particularly in energy exports sold at discounted prices.
  • China has capitalized on Russia’s isolation by expanding its investments and economic influence within Russia, with Chinese companies increasing their share of Russian market participation. This economic relationship shows an imbalance, with China benefiting from favorable trade terms.
  • Western sanctions and the war in Ukraine have deeply impacted Russia’s economy, as seen in the weakening ruble, increasing reliance on China, and signs of Russia potentially becoming a subordinate economic partner to China rather than an equal.

That's maybe not as evocative as the image of Chinese tanks rumbling into Russia, but I think that it's probably a much more realistic geopolitical issue for Russia.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree with you. Military deployments are expensive. Why bother when you already control the trade relationship? China is in a position to get anything it wants from Russia. Hell, if they want territory they can probably get it the same way they do everywhere else - business deals.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe they'll simply buy territory from Russia, in a similar manner to the Alaska purchase?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ok, it seems like the video talks about the dissolution of russia, not just weakened state. The video talks about the day US defeat russia and russia have to dissolve into multiple small countries. They afraid that once that happened, the newly formed independent state will be occupied by US(kinda like Afghanistan) and then china will lose their military strength. To prevent that, china need to annex(their word) it themselves. After that UN is not needed, and everything need to went through China.

So basically its some ultranationalist wet dream in video form.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Fits with Chinese imperial history.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

it would be glorious

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I would just laugh.

Sure, it would be criminal and shit, but when has russia last cared about any of that UN funnyspeak?

Bon apetit, China.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

If they rebuild the Trans-Siberian Railway to Belt and Road high-speed rail standards, once there is peace, that will be great for travel.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

China has publicly included the loss of Manchuria to Russia in like 1905~ to be part of it's great century of shame and that China considers it part of Greater China.

Expanding North beyond that into Siberia would open up the arctic ocean to them, which if nobody does anything, will only get more valuable as we heat up

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If they wait 50 years they can annex it through a personal union, though it will lead to a temporary happiness drop with their other vassals

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Dang. I didn't have Russia nukes China on my 2025 disasters bingo card.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't say seize. Say 'special military operation'.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Just defending their borders against aggressive neighbors

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I did not have that on my bingo card

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm not sure how I feel about this, because fuck Russia, but not fuck the Russians. Turnabout is always fair play, but where along Russia's borders would we want another front? I am not well enough versed in Asian geopolitics.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Korea and maybe very specific slivers of the Kazakh border are the only other places along the Russian border where there's really even any sizable population on either side. in all other places its just people fighting with the trees and general mud / general frost.

If you draw a line from the Caspian sea to Vladivostok, which would basically be the contact line between a Russo-Chinese conflict. the only places immediately in range a for either side that have a lot of people are parts of northeastern China, the city of Vladivostok the Korean Peninsula, and Uzbekistan. everywhere else both sides would logistically starve themselves. cause its just miles of nothing

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, fuck the Russian government for what they've done, but I still would have a very hard time supporting two giant forces built of working class no say people and slaughtered on both sides. The Chinese people don't deserve it, neither do the Russians. propaganda clearly works around the globe. We know Russians believe different propaganda than China, U.S., Germany, Hungary, Turkey, UK.. etc.

All of it is different. But supporting any government attacking another right now only kills the people, not those creating the propaganda and spreading it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

China might actually win this border war for once. One of Russia's only W streaks was the Sino-Soviet/Russian border wars.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

That would be so funny

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Come on dog. Only a cowardly Winnie the Pooh looking dipshit would be afraid of going after Russia when they are weak.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

I thought that was obviously the plan all along... Pour at least make Russia, China's Bitch.

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