Part of me wants to main Gentoo just to neutralise any arch smug I come across.
But then I remember I don't really want a 2nd job
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I imagine telling an Arch user you use Gentoo is like telling a Texan that if you cut Alaska into two halves Texas would be the third largest US state.
This thread once again proving that complaints about arch elitism are 1000x more common than actual arch elitism
This would have been the perfect comment if you were from a slightly different instance
Edit: wait there is (was?) an "I use arch btw" instance right? I'm not imagining it?
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I'm literally in the process of switching my main from Arch to Gentoo now. (Yes it's taking a while.) And I intend to be even more smug. Bwahahaha!
Gentoo is not that bad. Its just arch with a longer install. You still got to read the wiki when installing something and still have to follow the news.
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Gentoo, that's fun. Brings back a lot of memories from Kindergarten. Let me know when you're ready to build LFS with the big dogs.
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Warning: Hot take
Who you are and what your needs are will affect which distro is best for you.
Sacrilege! Burn the person bringing a reasonable perspective to the flame war!
What? Sacrilege. Of course my mum's PC runs arch so does my server I would install arch on a hospital Server and have it auto update if they'd let me ... /s
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The best way to trigger an Arch user is to use Ubuntu and love it.
Heh, I have two laptops: one with Arch and one with Ubuntu. I like both systems. I guess i like triggering myself.
why did that last sentence sound so sexual 😭😭
"Oh yeah. I'm triggering myself aaaall night long!"
What's wrong with Ubuntu? It's a great distro in all honesty.
I personally have no issues with it, but a lot of people really dislike things like snaps (seen as reinventing the wheel of flatpaks and using closed source backend to do it no less) and Canonical really sadly does have a history of making some really silly and thoughtless mistakes which were all bad for the Ubuntu community. I can see an understand those arguments' validity, but I do think they're just a little silly because there's far worse companies doing far worse things out there than Canonical.
Anyway, I still like Ubuntu but I know it gets a lot of hate so I like to poke fun. Xubuntu is like my ride-or-die for old hardware.
As someone who’s in the process of moving to an almost fully Linux environment but only has experience using Ubuntu. Is there a lateral alternative or ‘step-up’ distro you would recommend I try given the downsides of Canonical/ubuntu?
Mint is generally the suggested new go-to for newbies, as I understand it, because it's probably the closest to Ubuntu but has snaps disabled.
Debian if you're going for something more pure, but they are a lot less current, albeit more stable due to that.
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One word. Snaps
Seven additional words: Apt installing snaps instead of Debian packages
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My ubuntu server install gives me an ad for Canonical’s “enhanced security” and a Kubernetes ad every time I SSH into it :(
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Canonical is what's wrong.
it feels corporatey and it's not exceptional at anything
If you're not registered (which is free for non-business use) the GUI softwate updater may tease you with extra security patches you won't get.
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I would really like to thank the Arch community for maintaining such a wonderful wiki; it's great that your nuts-and-bolts approach naturally generates the best documentation. That said, Debian will always be my distro of choice.
Mint for me, but the Arch wiki is just the best.
I'm officially off of arch now and back on debian, my first and true linux love. I used to love arch for the AUR, but I had a couple of AUR packages that took so long to upgrade, they were basically un-upgradeable. I switched from i3 on X to sway on Wayland at the same time, so I can't say how much of my issues were that, but various small issues are no longer issues, like better Playstation controller support. And I don't have to restart every time I update repositories because I'm not constantly upgrading the Linux kernel. And there are so many .deb packages! But sincerely, thank you arch community. I still use the arch wiki.
Debian my beloved
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controversial opinion: distro/software wars are good, because they make people discuss about their software, which motivates the developers. you don't see windows software wars, because they can't choose their de
Pretty sure that for most things it's simply that there's one software that's way above the rest or you simply have no interest in the fields where people debate what is best and on Linux you often are stuck with the one software that does the trick because there's not enough demand for real competition that pushes devs to come up with something as good as what you'll find on Windows.
arch, debian and mint all belong in 1st place
Debian
As long as you're not using the distro's 5 year old version of 3D printer slicing software with ancient printer models in it and go for the newest appimage/flatpak instead (just dealt with this last night).
Yep. When it has the package I need, flatpak elevates Debian to the last distro I will ever need.
And when flatpak doesn't have the package I need, there's always Fedora.
(I know - I'm a meme for hating snaps that much. Lol.)
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My top five Linux distros:
- Debian: It may not be exciting but its rock stability is what makes it good for the vast majority of people (aka what I would genuenly reccomend to people)
- Alpine: Not the easiest or most stable but very lightweight
- OpenSuse: Stable yet up to date, very good defaults and themeing is amazing (especially on Sway)
- Arch: Ignoring the community or documentation you get a distro with up to date packages and not much else to seperate it
- NixOS: Way too advanced for me but I love the way it works, seems amazing for a select type of people
Of course my opinion is objectively correct and if you disagree im going to burn your house down with combustible lemons (made by my team of scientists ofc) /s
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The desktop environment and package manager has a greater effect on your user experience than the distro
I used to use Ubuntu and Mint now I use SteamOS.
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Arrays start at 0, which leaves plenty of room for SCO Linux powered by UnitedLinux
Wait, I think there was an underflow error...
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"Linux heals the heart, no matter the distro"
- Someone.
- Bog standard Fedora
You're not wrong.
As my hatred for snaps has removed Ubuntu from my install set, I'm finding myself quietly installing Fedora anywhere that Debian won't do.
My preferences change with the wind, but Fedora is a fantastic default choice.
It's always been Debian on servers for me, any time I've strayed from that I've regretted it. And Fedora has become my home on the desktop, it's just so hard to break. I like fixing things and learning, but it's annoying to always have to do it on your main system.
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I needed to quickly get something up and running on a laptop so that I could take it in the field. I thought about reinstalling arch for a minute but decided to go with Ubuntu. And you know what? It was good enough. The install was easy peasy, and everything just worked right out of the box. If I was setting up a long term machine I'd probably go with arch, but just to get some shit done on a timeline? Yeah, turned out Ubuntu was good enough.
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Well, the Tuxies said it was NixOS...
College-aged me would have loved Arch. Maybe retirement me will have to play with it for fun in the vaults.
Present-day me however, in middle age with a growing family and a full time job already working on Linux-based software all day, is a total slut for Linux Mint.
It installs and gets running easier and faster than Windows, and is based on widely used and tested stuff from Ubuntu and Debian. It’s not the “learn how operating systems work” distro for sure, but there is a lot of practical use in the world for the “plug the installer drive into your busted old Windows 10 machine and in 15 minutes have a responsive useful Linux PC where your parents can find the Internet browser” distro!
I am very interested to see if SteamOS makes a big push into desktops, though. A whole lot more of the desktop Linux world could become Arch based.
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-1. WSL.
Because everything to do with WSL is negative
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