Four telecommunication cables connecting Finland out of service : world

[–] [email protected] 16 points 21 hours ago

[–] [email protected] 12 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

We all know it was Russia. They'll never admit it and spout some bollocks about western conspiracy theories. Just seize all their ships and property. Anyone trading with them gets 30 years in the slammer.

Patton was right, we should have dealt with the problem in 1945.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Problem here is that these ships aren't Russia's vehicles. Eagle S, the one that most likely caused these damages, is registered to Cook Islands, and is owned by Dubain company. And then there is international maritime law, that among other things doesn't allow blockades.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

If it wasn't for that pesky maritime law :-)

[–] [email protected] -5 points 14 hours ago

Ridiculous accusation. Dementia over a war on Russia is easily amplified by such an accusation, and so obvious warmongering from "friends" to both sabotage and claim the absurdity of russia.

Just as nodstream sabotage, it is USA and colonies who will provide alternate infrastructure for the sabotage.

Without a motive, you need extreme gullibility to accept the propaganda of usual suspects, and you diminish Europe significantly in humanizing such liars stealing from and subjugating you by fear and demonism.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How many not-attack attacks are required until retaliation is on the table?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Best retaliation is more arms to Ukraine - a war that is already in progress and so you don't risk starting a new war.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Denmark and Sweden should just close off lake NATO to all non nato shipping. And any non nato ship that is allowed will have coastguard personell onboard during their stay in lake NATO. The cost of the operation is levied as toll on the ships.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago

Or Military takes all ships causing damage as compensation.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

it's them damn sharks again ain't it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

CHOMP

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

KGB is recruiting sharks now? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

KGB are buisness sharks now

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Also a power cable Estlink 2 was cut. Finnish authorities have seized a vessel called Eagle S for likely having caused the damages. Finland's border guards were close by when it happened, and they saw that Eagle S's anchor was missing.

EDIT: YLE’s news about it in English: https://yle.fi/a/74-20133516

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Should have paid the bill then.

[+] [email protected] -54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Yes, yes, then they observe repairs, duration ect, and come up with a plan for grow to delay further, so they can then use the information in the coming war.

Here's an idea: execute the crew, seize the vessels, use loyal Chinese speakers for a mock return journey, monitor the radio (eg. do counter intelligence).

Keep those executions up, see how often it happens after you execute a few boats worth of officers. If that doesn't work, blockade the Strait of Malaca, the path China imports their oil by.

Oh, you can't do any of this because you outsourced all your manufacturing to China in the 1990s push for privatization screwing the local working class over?

Capitalism is dangerous for national security.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

execute the crew

Ahh, muricans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

If you're fine with Luigi Mangione, you should be fine with executing foriegn spies who want worse for your Nation than even health insurance CEOs.

Cable cutting ship full of spy equipment

It comes down to the fundamental question; do you think a nation has to use deadly force to protect itself. If you say no - (including what Luigi Mangione did), then you're the reason billionaires rule with impunity, because there's no consequences to defrauding the nation, to spying on it, to plotting it's demise, or attacking it's infrastructure.

People need to understand, if you want to protect democracy and freedom, you have to be willing to kill for it. That's all that politics comes down to, where that force is directed. You say: No, kill no one, then you will not have a nation as soon as an invading army knows this weakness.

"No" means you do not want to have a nation. That's a pipedream.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

execute the crew

Yeaah, I don't know about the rest of you but this is not the world I want to live in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

If you're fine with Luigi Mangione, you should be fine with executing foriegn spies who want worse for your Nation than even health insurance CEOs.

Cable cutting ship full of spy equipment

It comes down to the fundamental question; do you think a nation has to use deadly force to protect itself. If you say no - (including what Luigi Mangione did), then you're the reason billionaires rule with impunity, because there's no consequences to defrauding the nation, to spying on it, to plotting it's demise, or attacking it's infrastructure.

People need to understand, if you want to protect democracy and freedom, you have to be willing to kill for it. That's all that politics comes down to, where that force is directed. You say: No, kill no one, then you will not have a nation as soon as an invading army knows this weakness.

"No" means you do not want to have a nation. That's a pipedream.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Summarily executing people over circumstantial evidence is also bad for national security. Glad you aren't involved in international geopolitics.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago

If you're fine with Luigi Mangione, you should be fine with executing foriegn spies who want worse for your Nation than even health insurance CEOs.

Cable cutting ship full of spy equipment

It comes down to the fundamental question; do you think a nation has to use deadly force to protect itself. If you say no - (including what Luigi Mangione did), then you're the reason billionaires rule with impunity, because there's no consequences to defrauding the nation, to spying on it, to plotting it's demise, or attacking it's infrastructure.

People need to understand, if you want to protect democracy and freedom, you have to be willing to kill for it. That's all that politics comes down to, where that force is directed. You say: No, kill no one, then you will not have a nation as soon as an invading army knows this weakness.

"No" means you do not want to have a nation. That's a pipedream.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Plot twist, it's donald trump's lemmy account.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Way too well written and coherent

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

FACTS!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Not a single sentence ALL CAPS FOR EMPHASIS? Can't be.

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