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Which reasonably sized instance to recommend newcomers? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Criteria: I'm looking for instances that are defed' with the Big 3 tankies (lemmygrad, lemmy.ml, and hexbear). I have no interest in trying to persuade my friends to create an acc and set up instance blocks before diving in, or dealing with the feedback when they run into the tankie brigade.

Edit: lemmy.cafe and infosec.pub seem to fit. I also find it really interesting just how many of the replies totally ignored my stated criteria.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

@[email protected] FYI

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

.cafe is the only major one that I know is defederated with all 3.

https://lemmy.cafe/instances

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

Thanks!

[+] [email protected] -9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It doesn’t block porn instances though. I’d argue that because of this sopuli.xyz might be better choice even if it doesn’t block lemmy.ml.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you for deciding my criteria for me 🙄

[+] [email protected] -9 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Title: „Which reasonably sized instance to recommend newcomers?”

Criteria: „I have no interest in trying to persuade my friends to create an acc and set up instance blocks before diving in”

OP: „but what about me”

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, let's just ignore the entire text body? I know there's a joke about never reading the article, but this is a level above that.

[+] [email protected] -7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I won’t argue that I know what was your intention when asking the question but you definitely didn’t phrase it as criteria for you specifically but rather newcomers in general.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

My post started with 'Criteria: I’m looking for instances that are defed’ with the Big 3 tankies', which you conveniently left out of your quote. That direct statement was not clearly phrased enough?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

It’s very clearly phrased. I’m saying that if you want a newcomer instance then defederating porn instances is more important than instance that doesn’t really go out of its way to interfere with other communities. Sopuli is actually one of the first instances to block Hexbear outright when other big instance admins hesitated to.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I want a instance that I'm comfortable recommending to my crowd. I listed the criteria that I needed for my specific group of friends, and porn is not something that is an issue here. Maybe as a secondary criteria, but that's a distant second.

[.ml] doesn’t really go out of its way to interfere with other communities

Yes, but I'm not willing or comfortable recommending anything that's got a bunch of .ml comms on the front page.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 hours ago

I don’t have problem with porn either but it’s just not convenient. If your instance doesn’t block porn instances then your All page will be flooded with junk and you’ll have to painstakingly go through blocking them yourself. It’s easier to have a separate account for porn if you want to use Lemmy that way.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

defed.xyz to check?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Oh that's handy

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

I think I found the best one:

infosec.pub

has 4186 total users and 335 active users

seems more active than the .cafe that the other user suggested

Good luck with converting more people to join Lemmy!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 hours ago

Feeling good on lemmy.sdf.org

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Btw you can block instances in your settings. Also I would argue lemmy.ml is not as “tankie” as the other two.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Yeah it's quite less tankie than the other two, but you can still be banned and/or have your content deleted for criticizing communism

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Didn’t know that!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Ok? Why does that matter if you’re not on their server

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

it doesn't matter at all if you don't post/comment on communities hosted there

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Even if you do, the worst thing that can happen is them banning you on a bunch of their communities

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, that was my point

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I mean you can post and comment on the programmer humor community pretty long before stumbling on the topic of communism. But yeah I don't think we disagree here

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago

I have no interest in trying to persuade my friends to create an acc and set up instance blocks before diving in

lemmy.ml is not as tankie, but that bar is the height of my little toe.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works are both really good. IIRC .world is hosted in Germany and sh.ithust.works in Canada east coast

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You do realise I'm on SJW? And neither of your recs is relevant to the criteria I stated.