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Mildly Infuriating

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Any guesses for what chaos awaits us on this train?

Edit to add: This is not the ticket, it was printed alongside the actual ticket, after asking for seating preferences.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (11 children)

So many people in the comments don't get that having something called a seat reservation which doesn't literally reserve a seat is mildly infuriating.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It means you can sit anywhere you want and you're not stuck in an assigned seat.
You get on the train early you can have any seat you want.
This seems like the exact opposite of infuriating.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

In my experience it should be called general seating or something along those lines if it isn't for a specific reserved seat.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Then why do you also need this piece of paper that doesn't even seem to function as a ticket?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (6 children)

They only issue as many tickets as seats. They just don't tell you what seat to take.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

My money is on it being part of the ticketing computer’s programming.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Certain tickets in German rail have similar reservations. There are numerous seats kept free in the train for those who have a reservation - simply find one of these seats and sit down there. Always worked fine for me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Specific." It's general admission. Ideally, they would only sell as many seat reservations as there are seats available in whatever cars are in the "seat pool."

I don't see a problem here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I suppose it's irritating that you pay (a likely large amount of money as it's probably a UK ticket) for a ticket with a seat reservation, the least they could do is actually assign you a seat.

If it's a free for all and - as you likely correctly say - they don't oversell the number of tickets against the number of seats, then the reservation card of the ticket is a little pointless really.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (7 children)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's likely to differentiate between the general admission cars and the cars that do have assigned (and probably more comfortable) seats.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm not familiar with the ticketing system, but I think that it'd be reasonable for the ticket to simply be used to ensure that there is a seat somewhere, but not a specific seat.

If you go to a restaurant and reserve a table, the table doesn't need to be a specific one...just means that the restaurant will make sure that one is open.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This ticket is odd by UK standards, and the arrangement you describe isn't the norm. These seat reservation tickets normally specify a particular seat

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Every east-midlands train I've been on has had to cancel specific seat reservations when I got on anyway. I think they just constantly overbook or something.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You see, you know how to take the reservation, you just don't know how to hold the reservation. And that's really the most important part of the reservation: the holding.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fairly common in Germany. Trains can be so full often times that people are standing butt to belly in the aisles.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

In the UK where this ticket is from, if you buy a ticket from the machine in the station it will spit it out in potentially multiple parts.

You can see this ticket says "Valid only with Travel Ticket", which means this is the second of two parts. The " Travel Ticket" (not pictured) is the one that actually allows you to travel on the train, and the reservation part (pictured) is the one that gives you a seat.

So the mystery isn't that there is no reservation, but that this ticket doesn't even need to exist without a reservation. The machine could have just not printed this ticket at all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Thanks for the clarification!

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