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[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago

Isn't that the whole fucking point of the show though? The main characters are terrible selfish assholes?

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s not offensive, it’s just not that funny.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

That's what's offensive

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Not saying it's not funny, but there is definitely stuff in the show that wouldn't fly today. For example there is an episode where George didn't know black people ate salad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

For example there is an episode where George didn't know black people ate salad.

We're still getting asked questions like this and honestly, should be highlighted:

Pure facepalm Questions I've overheard or was involved in:

  • Can black people use the same shampoo as white people
  • If Muslim women wore the hijab in the shower
  • Is the southeast asian vagina 90 degrees
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't like Seinfeld, but isn't George supposed to be an utter dunce?

Like, as a Zoomer, people not being able to tell the difference between portraying bigotry and endorsing it IS an actual problem I see.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I am reminded of Sokka's character in the new version of the Avatar (show) compared to the original animated one. In the original animated one, he portrays sexism and very much feels the consequences of it, and grows as a character when overcoming it (through warranted humiliation). The new show never included any of this and so his character lacks all of this. It's like the writers think they're endorsing his sexism if they ever included such a thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

I don't think they are afraid of it, I think they just wanted to portray a more serious character overall. Live action lens itself to that serious tone, where It would be hard to replicate some of the slapstick gags in the anime and trying would fall flat.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

He is also based on Larry David himself, and many of the most outrageous stunts he does in Seinfeld, David has done in real life. For example, George quitting his job just to regret it immediately and going back the next day as if nothing had happened, is based on Larry David doing exactly that as a writer on SNL. He made a big scene and quit, and just went back after the weekend and pretended like he'd been joking. Larry David is an interesting man to say the least.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago

He made a big scene and quit, and just went back after the weekend and pretended like he’d been joking.

Sounds like the whole situation could've been avoided by him curbing his enthusiasm

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I heard on a podcast today that Larry David based the George character on himself. (The podcast is called Good Bad Billionaire, where a couple of people judge various billionaires on their ethics etc. TIL Jerry Seinfeld is a billionaire.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Not a Seinfeld fan but I did see enough episodes of both it and Curb Your Enthusiasm to be annoyed that I didn't make this connection.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

He takes it up a few notches on Curb.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

and a lot of questionable consent sex situations if I remember correctly

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

This was just the 80s-2000s in general.

There's a lot of really uncomfortable stuff portrayed for laughs during that era.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

This whole "young people find everything offensive" narrative is ridiculous, and always has been. It's very beneficial to those who want to shift the Overton window, though.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

That right there is some clickbait. I'm millennial and I was watching the show when it was on and loved it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Yeah, not sure how old they think millennials are or when they thought Seinfeld aired

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

#HEY IT'S THE ASSMAN!

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Meh, Jerry Seinfeld has been pushing the "I'm too offensive for young people" and "I've been cancelled" nonsense for a while now. He's just old and not funny anymore. Turns out telling the same jokes for 30 years doesn't get a lot of laughs. What is the deal with millennials anyway!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

he unequivocally walked that back recently. said he was wrong to think that and it isn't a thing. he probably had a talk with his kid or something.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He probably had a long talk with his PR counselor and was advised that he stood to loose more then he would gain if he stuck to that.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I did a re-watch in the last couple years. Most of it was fine, even if it would not be a big hit these days. Jerry dates the Asian women? Yea that would get called out most likely. Elaine dates a guy she thinks is black? Pretty sure that still flies. Elaine is scarred she's dating a murderer? Probs a special two part episode these days. Shocks me how ahead of the curve they were with the Elaine gets gaped episode.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

I guess I'm going to have to rewatch now.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If they(we) think Seinfeld is offensive, what do they think of IASIP?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Well, IASIP is also actually funny, which helps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I do wonder if whatever is "After GenZ/Gen Alpha" in the 2050s will look at IASIP and see it as disgusting unfunny and terribly offensive, as now their humor is beyond the surreal absurdness of skibidi toilet.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm an Xer and I didn't like Seinfeld, but that's mostly because I don't like embarrassment comedy. It's the same reason I don't like Will Ferrel and Ben Stiller, but to each their own. I don't begrudge anyone else finding it funny, it's just not my vibe.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

I'm not saying you have to like Seinfeld or anything, but I wouldn't consider it embarrassment comedy. It's more about the gang being a bunch of sociopaths, like an early version of IASIP.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Millennial here. I tried to watch Seinfeld back in the day, and I thought it was kind of meh. But there was one character I really hated on the show. He had a whiny pathetic voice, was always complaining about something or another, and was just an awful actor, unlike the rest of the cast. I thought, if they just removed that one guy, the show would be great and I'd enjoy it so much more.

I found out later, that guy was Seinfeld. So... I never really got into the show.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Seinfeld is definitely the weakest character and the show is the most memorable from everyone else

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[–] [email protected] 168 points 2 days ago (31 children)

Didn't millennials watch it growing up? Someone's not getting their generational terms right

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are we talking about "Seinfeld", the slightly overrated comedy TV series, or "Seinfeld", the horrible human being?

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Millennials are like 40 years old now. Does this article writer think Millennial just means "kid"?

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Ummmm, the whole point of the show was that the people were horrible.

The show ended with them jailed after they made fun of a guy who was getting mugged.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Millennial here, Seinfeld is the bomb.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

Would you leave us the fuck alone, we're old now!

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago (6 children)

It's weird that "this group of people don't like that show that you like" is supposed to create some sort of negative reaction. My enjoyment of a thing does not depend on a certain number of other people liking it.

I must be numb to "outrage is the best way to engage people" that everyone uses these days.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Almost every time an article like this is posted, the contents are the result of one or two comments out of thousands, or a Reddit post that didn't gain much traction outside of "eh, sure, I guess?"

Tangentially related, IMO there should be an "author review" site, where if someone posts a stupid article like this, it is referenced in a database against their name and their frame of reference for the content is called out. Rank "journalists" against this, and eventually the people starting out in the industry posting AI-generated shite that doesn't hold up will start to err on the side of caution.

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