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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It would be more useful to see metrics weighted per active user it's trivial to update a server if it's just for yourself, and likewise it's easy to let it lag a few versions behind.

What's more relevant is the version number the large instances are running

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You can filter https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy by monthly active users.

  • lemmy.ml, hexbear and Lemmy dbzer0 are the only ones in the top 10 to run 0.19.8
  • discuss.tchncs.de, lemmy.zip and sopuli.xyz, infosec.pub are in the top 20 and run 0.19.8 as well

Note: 0.19.6 and 0.19.7 had an issue with pictures thumbnails, which is why quite a few instances kept running 0.19.5

The elephant in the room is obviously LW which hosts around a third of the monthly active users but still run 0.19.3

A month ago someone asked about this on [email protected], for people interested: https://lemmy.world/post/22173840

Edit: added hexbear, discuss.tchncs.de and infosec.pub which just updated

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

we'll try to get the post out the coming week, at this time we're roughly looking at updating late January.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Thanks for jumping in!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Total MAUs are so low. You really need solid double digit YoY growth (20-30% YoY) to have a strong trajectory in the medium term.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Monthly active users have plateaued at 44k for a while now: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yet, comments per day seems to be going up! And I helped!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Have a cookie!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's not really good a thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Obviously not

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

User count seems to be going up according to fedidb. At least in the number of federated users.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It the number of active users stays the same, that could just mean that

  • people are changing instances
  • some instances shut down
  • some farmbots were open
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

My theory is that there is quite a few servers that are chosing to defederate. The number of total servers continues to drop according to fedidb.

So while total users go up, the global federation is staying around the same. There's quite a few servers that don't want to be connected to everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My theory is that there is quite a few servers that are chosing to defederate. The number of total servers continues to drop according to fedidb.

Or admins are just finding it not worth bothering with administering their own server and turning them off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I'm not seeing that trend. There are people who don't want to federate. But they usually choose different software. Like Flarum or Discourse instead of Lemmy. And I think the statistics pages pull the user numbers directly from the instances(?) so a more defederated instance might show up in the statistics anyways.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Heh, I upgraded from 0.19.5 to 0.19.8 today just to see this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So when is it safe to upgrade, and from/to which version(s)?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've become a fan of staying one version behind for a month or two, unless there's a security issue that is involved in which case I'll patch.

I like it when someone who isn't me finds out the catastrophic breaking issues and has to do the cleanup, and I'll wait for the fixed version. :P

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Me too. This is also fueled by the fact that there are no admin tools for announcing releases, and you can't set notifications for any new message in a community, and the releases are announced in a community.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Head to the lemmy github and subscribe to the releases email and you'll get one when a new version is out.

(And, unlike SOME projects I'm subbed to, they don't do anything that generates a ton of spam, so it really is just one-email-per-release.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

That is good to know, Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can pin a post instance wide

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This doesn't help an admin of an instance to identify that a new release has occurred, though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah, misread your question. The other comment with the email from the Github should address your question.

[–] Nothing4You 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] there's also rss feeds for communities

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Due to unpleasant experiences, not the first day :)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

People who were there for 0.19.4 remember 😅

But this one seems quite stable, it is a fix for 0.19.7, so hopefully no bug

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ya, my whole server was in a bad mood after 19.4.

I'm on 19.5 which one should I go with (I mean if 19.6 had problems there is maybe a 19.6.1 right?)?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, it's directly 0.19.6, then .7 and .8

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So you'd recommend the 19.7 as a bugfree stable version?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

0.19.8 is the bugfix for 0.19.7. You can wait a few days to see if 0.19.8 has bugs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes that's the theory 😊 but I heard icons or something doesn't work well on 19.7...

Do they do backports?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There used to be an issue on thumbnails for some instances

But on the other hand, some instances on 0.19.7 were doing fine:

Not sure about backports

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Thanks, seems it's time to upgrade!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

just did the jump fro. .5 to .8 today (for all of my 2 active users)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't even know in which version is my instance (Lemm.ee) I'd like that mobile clients showed up this value more easily (maybe they do but I am dumb, I use Summit, Voyager, Boost and the defunct Sync).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sadly, I still don't see pictures being displayed on lemmy.cafe - perhaps that problem was unrelated, or the upgrade process isn't entirely finished yet.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Indeed, I raised in on the local community

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's one thing I really like about lemmy.ml compared to some other instances, it's always kept up to date. I'd host my own for myself but then it's just another thing I'm responsible for and I'd rather not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

The point of this post was to show that other large instances like lemmy.zip and dbzer0 updated the day of the release