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cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/20009882

Car tires shed a quarter of all microplastics in the environment. Urgent action is needed

Electric cars are not THE solution.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (3 children)

That's not all. Apparently a chemical added to extend tire life (sort of good from an environmental standpoint) turns out to leach into water and kill fish, so...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's mentioned in the article actually

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Pffft. Look at this noob. What is it, your first day on the Internet? Actually reading the articles instead of reading the title and assuming.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I had a fish named zagorath. Anyway what was your comment?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Oh, my bad, thanks

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, in Germany there is already a lot of pressure on sewage network operators to get it out of the rainwater (we have many separate sewer systems). And that is honestly quite annoying. Put the pressure on the polluter (car/tire industry and car drivers), not the troubleshooter.

It is also a waste of money and space. The facilities to get it out are huge and expensive. This is also naturally paid for by the general public.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Problem is that there is no good mechanism to put pressure on polluter in this case because any additional cost will be paid by consumer. We need to develop transit, design cities and reform job market to the point where cars are just not competitive.

Bob and Alice will be riding car if nearest mall is 10 km away and you need 1,5h to get there by bus. They also will ride car if Bob can’t rely on tram schedules or Alice have to go to the office despite working in globally distributed IT business. We need systematic approach to the problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Put that cost pressure on then invest heavily into public transit that does not rely on tires. If you have high frequency service (at least every 20 minutes, ideally closer to 5) then relying on a tram schedule isnt really a big deal. If the tram has priority at intersections, it is much easier to stay on schedule.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Virgin rubber on asphalt

Chad steel on steel

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I was unaware rubber products were considered micro plastics, I mean it makes sense, but for some reason I just never put that together

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Tires haven't been made of rubber for a long time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

What if I told you the gum that you chew was also made from plastic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

You can still buy him made of chicle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I'd be more surprised if you told me it wasn't. At this point, living in the American Dystopia, I expect anything obtainable to a Proletarian to be at least partially artificial and likely carcinogenic.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I mean I don't chew gum so... Nothing much?

[–] pkill 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It really makes you see how the petrochemical industry kills two birds with one stone here

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Two birds and a fish

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

They're both made of long polymer chains - chains of repeating carbon-based molecules - but rubbers are synthesized in a way that makes it easy for these chains to slip past each other and spring back. In plastics, the chains are much more tangled and bonded together.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

But think of the EVs! /s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At this point the better question is what isn't stored in the balls.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Oddly enough, pee.